I don't think you need anti-virus with Vista

Steve Thackery wrote:
>> These days all you have to do is receive the email, or visit a
>> website, or just be connected to the internet.....
>>
>> ..even being connected without a -good- AV app runing is just asking
>> for it.
>
> You keep making this assertion, but where is your proof?
>
> I've got proof: my PC has been connected to the Internet continuously
> for two years, during which time I've made extensive use of email and
> web browsing (I work from home, and do my work on the unprotected PC),
> and it has come to no harm whatsoever.
>
> I repeat, have you actually tried it, like I have, or are you simply
> repeating the assertions you've been brainwashed into believing?
>
> SteveT

Why don't you mosey around this web site for awhile and then report back:

www.youporn.com

Be sure and click on the links below the videos.

Heh.

Alias

Andre Da Costa[ActiveWin] wrote:
> Trust me, you need Antivirus for Windows Vista, I am running Vista
> x64 and I was surprised when I did a scan with Norton AV Corporate
> Edition 10.2 it fold several Trojan horses and viruses under
> C:/Windows which successfully cleaned and deleted.

< snip >

As a previous poster refuses to name a virus he says he found on 5 th December 2007
pehaps you will tell me the names of the viruses you found with Norton AV Corporate?
I'm assuming there is some sort of log file you could quote from?
I am sure lots of people would like to know the threats out there.
What does Norton say about these dangers?
Perhaps you could post a link so that I can read all about it and make sure I am protected.
Thank you.
..

Hi Steve. I don't think you'll get very much of a response on that
challenge, so I figured I'd give you a link to try:

http [colon] [double forward slash] astalavista [dot] box [dot] sk

And no, the "VISTA" in that URL is not a reference to Windows Vista, as
this particular site has been around even before XP. My record for
killing a fresh XP SP2 installation after visiting the above site is
around 11 minutes or so. An original (pre-SP1) XP lasted about 4
minutes.

*--*
*-And I caution all readers of this thread to NOT visit the above site
for anything other than testing purposes and if you have a very recent,
full backup of your system. -*
*--*
*-If you think you're brave enough to go look, do so on a non-critical
computer that you won't mind formatting later on.-*
*--*
*-You have been warned!-*



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Andre Da Costa[ActiveWin] wrote:
> Trust me, you need Antivirus for Windows Vista, I am running Vista
> x64 and I was surprised when I did a scan with Norton AV Corporate
> Edition 10.2 it fold several Trojan horses and viruses under
> C:/Windows which successfully cleaned and deleted.

I am always reading on here that Vista stops files being written to system
folders. Isn't C:\Windows classed as a system folder ?
How can several trojan horses and viruses get there ? Why didn't Vista block them ?
This sounds like a very serious bug in Vista to me.
..

> Hi Steve. I don't think you'll get very much of a response on that
> challenge, so I figured I'd give you a link to try:

Thanks. I'll be using my computer all day, so this evening (UK time) I'll
back up all my work to my (Linux-based) NAS, and then have a play around on
that site.

If my PC gets infected I promise to say so here, complete with gruesome
descriptions!

SteveT

Steve Thackery wrote:

>> Here's an interesting little experiment. Yes, it's being run on XP, but
>> it does compare IE6, IE7 and Firefox 2 in terms of protecting against a
>> drive-by ...
>
> Hmmm.... but that "drive by" attack relies on an unpatched bug in IE6.
> IE7
> is unaffected, and IE6 was patched ages ago. Vista - which is what we're
> talking about - comes with IE7.
>
> What other drive-by attacks do you know of? Tell you what - I've got all
> my
> data backed up on a NAS, so here's a challenge. Find me a website which
> you think will infect my computer, and I will visit it with my unprotected
> but
> fully patched Vista machine, and we'll see what happens. I give you my
> word that I will post the results truthfully.
>
> Remember, I shall be complying with my "rules" (posted in the top
> message), of which number 3/ is relevant here: I won't deliberately or
> knowingly
> download a program file unless its from a reputable site. All other
> security settings are at the Vista default, except I've set my account to
> an administrator, and made it so UAC prompts don't need my password.
>
> There's the challenge. Go for it.
>
> SteveT

How am I supposed to find a website with a drive-by when I don't run
Windoze? My Linux box won't even notice. Besides, I have better things to
do with my life than play games with you and try and find such a web site.
Just keep surfing the web. Eventually you'll find one yourself. Of course,
if you aren't running an AV that recognizes it, you'll never know. :-)

Cheers.

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dzomlija wrote:

>
> Hi Steve. I don't think you'll get very much of a response on that
> challenge, so I figured I'd give you a link to try:
>
> http [colon] [double forward slash] astalavista [dot] box [dot] sk
>
> And no, the "VISTA" in that URL is not a reference to Windows Vista, as
> this particular site has been around even before XP. My record for
> killing a fresh XP SP2 installation after visiting the above site is
> around 11 minutes or so. An original (pre-SP1) XP lasted about 4
> minutes.
>
> *--*
> *-And I caution all readers of this thread to NOT visit the above site
> for anything other than testing purposes and if you have a very recent,
> full backup of your system. -*
> *--*
> *-If you think you're brave enough to go look, do so on a non-critical
> computer that you won't mind formatting later on.-*
> *--*
> *-You have been warned!-*
>
>
>
OK, I'm on that site now. What's supposed to happen? Oops, sorry ... running
Linux. Guess nothing dangerous is going to happen.

Cheers.

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"Steve Thackery" <nobody@nowhere.com> wrote in message
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>> These days all you have to do is receive the email, or visit a website,
>> or just be connected to the internet.....
>>
>> ..even being connected without a -good- AV app runing is just asking for
>> it.
>
> You keep making this assertion, but where is your proof?

well first of all...

pffft

sorry, I'm gonna have to get back to you after I stop laughing.

> How am I supposed to find a website with a drive-by when I don't run
> Windoze?

Ah hah! So you spend your time on this group, but don't use Vista!
Furthermore, you decline my challenge.

I think that's one point for me, then.....

SteveT

dzomlija wrote:
> Hi Steve. I don't think you'll get very much of a response on that
> challenge, so I figured I'd give you a link to try:
>
> http [colon] [double forward slash] astalavista [dot] box [dot] sk
>
> And no, the "VISTA" in that URL is not a reference to Windows Vista,
> as this particular site has been around even before XP. My record for
> killing a fresh XP SP2 installation after visiting the above site is
> around 11 minutes or so. An original (pre-SP1) XP lasted about 4
> minutes.
>
> *--*
> *-And I caution all readers of this thread to NOT visit the above site
> for anything other than testing purposes and if you have a very
> recent, full backup of your system. -*
> *--*
> *-If you think you're brave enough to go look, do so on a non-critical
> computer that you won't mind formatting later on.-*
> *--*
> *-You have been warned!-*
>> mad:

That address is wrong.
The correct address is astalavista.com/
And no, I didn't get any viruses, just the usual pop-ups.
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