Question : XP or Vista?

vista claus wrote:

> frank should tell us everything he eats and uses, so we can avoid them... if
> frank uses them, they are dumb...lol
>
>
Let me see if I understand you...capin' crunch. You can't figure out how
to use Vista so you hate it, right? IOW's Vista is smarter than you'll
ever hope to be right? Basically, it owns your stupid, ignorant arse,
correct?
Well, you are a known bozo so what's the problem with Vista owning you?
OTOH, I've done at least 30-40 installs of Vista Ultimate over the last
2+ yrs and currently have over 12 seats up and running successfully in
my business.
Now you tell me mr spaced cadet, who would any intelligent person
believe when it comes to questions concerning Vista?
Well....?
Frank

ray wrote:

> On Sun, 02 Dec 2007 22:56:36 +1300, Lukan wrote:
>
>
>>Is it advisable to update now or would an intelligent person hold off
>>for another 6 months or so?
>
>
> I don't know that intelligence has much to do with it - more a matter of
> educating oneself. Many consultants are telling their clients not to go
> vista at this point. Not because you will have problems, there are some
> vista installations serving their users without huge issues - BUT you
> can't count on it. There is a high degree of liklihood that you would have
> significant issues.

That is simply not true.
>
> I'd recommend against vista now.

You have never, nor will you ever, recommend Vista. You don't use it and
you never will. You don't like nor recommend anything MS...you are a
linux troll and not fooling anyone.
Frank
>

vista claus wrote:

> if he installs vista he will not be intelligent
>
> nuf said
>
> whoever likes vista is stupid (TM)
>
Translation: capin' crunch is too stupid to figure out how to
successfully use Vista.
IOW, Vista is smarter than he is!
Frank

Derik wrote:

> alright let me tell u about vista. it looks cool and has a few new
> things that u cannot do in xp, but it also changes everything u can do
> in xp and makes it different.

Yeah, it's a new OS. It is not just an "upgraded or improved" XP.

for example in xp you can easily change
> settings for your computer. but in vista it makes changing things so
> much more difficult.

Really? Like what for example?

and if anyone wants to say that im just dumb and
> dont know how to use a computer ill have u know that im microsoft
> certified so i assure u that i can use a computer just fine.

Wonderful! Then you knew going in that Vista is a new OS and that there
is a slight "learning curve", right?

dont get me
> wrong vista is nice but it is not neccesary to get it unless u really
> want to get it and learn how to use it.

Yep! That is correct and has been correct since DOS, right? Not needed,
just wanted, right?

so if your computer is running
> just fine with xp then i would just keep xp and wait for sp3 to come
> out.

Sorry, but that is no longer true. MS has repeatedly stated that SP's
will no long have the dramatic effect that they've had before, like XP
SP1-2. In fact they will simply be a compilation of all previous updates
and fixes.
So waiting is...useless?

remember if its not broken then there is no need to try and fix it.

Exactly, so why did we leave DOS?
Frank

Mickey Lane wrote:
> If your computer is more than say 18 months old, I would never even
> attempt to upgrade it.
>
> If you use your computer for serious work (i.e. it's a tool and not an
> amusement) then I would wait.
>
> If you just want to mess around with the new stuff then go ahead.
>
> You may get a suggestion to try dual booting. While this can certainly
> be made to work, the result is often more trouble than it is worth.
>
> "Lukan" <nocvxv2t@hccomec11.org> wrote in message
> news:fitvgl$olq$1@lust.ihug.co.nz...
>> Is it advisable to update now or would an intelligent person hold off
>> for another 6 months or so?
>


I hope you'll stick around for a while, that was the best advice
presented in a concise manner that's been given for a while.

Actually I have one Asus MB that is 6 + years old and with an upgrade to
a faster CPU and an Nvidia AGP card it does rather well with Vista, but
it does have a limit of 1.5GB memory - the upgrade advisor said it would
work but it didn't however I was planning to replace those items anyway.

I totally agree about dual boot, better to fit a slide in mount and swap
the hardware - easy with SATA. Not so good with IDE. With modern MB that
have selectable boot device do it as two completely separate installs
with the other drive disconnected, avoids the boot manager issues that
arise if you let Windows do it.

Slap wrote:
>
>
> "Mickey Lane" <none@none.com> wrote in message
> news:#o5wv9ONIHA.5224@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>>
>> You may get a suggestion to try dual booting. While this can certainly
>> be made to work, the result is often more trouble than it is worth.
>>
>
> Actually a piece of cake. Obtain a now available filthy dirt cheap huge
> hard drive and put Vista on it. Vista takes care of everything and you
> can dual boot.
>
> I now mostly boot into Vista. Quite like it.
> --
>
>
>

And see where you end up if that drive fails, you may well end up with
the other OS unbootable and unfixable.

joel406 wrote:
> Well mister clause...Provide all your research and proof the people who
> use Vista are stupid. Or we will have to say that you are an "idiot" for
> your opinion. I've been using Vista for over a year and NEVER had an
> issue.


Hehe, yes but you are supposed to take it out that nice plastic case and
install it on a computer, not prop the door open with it


I mean good for you and all that, some do have problems, This to and fro
banter does nothing to help anyone and whichever side the "Mine works
perfectly so it must be you that's stupid" advocate is on actually
alienates people.

> you are entitiled to your opinion but the original poster MUST BE INFORMED
> that vista is the most HORRIBLE OS ever made

Incorrect. Lindows was/is. WindowsME was also horrendous on any system that
wasn't designed for it (but was ok on those that were), as were several of
the early consumer versions of Linux by Redhat and Win3.whogivesa****. By
comparison to those disasters, Vista is a dream. In my overall rankings of
modern era 32-bit OS's, I'd choose (for their respective times) Win98,
WinXP, and Mandrake 9. Vista's not far behind though.

--
Best of Luck,

Rick Rogers, aka "Nutcase" - Microsoft MVP
http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/
Windows help - www.rickrogers.org
My thoughts http://rick-mvp.blogspot.com

"vista claus" <ber@dormi.co.uk> wrote in message
news:4752edc7$1@newsgate.x-privat.org...
> you are an idiot...
>
> you are entitiled to your opinion but the original poster MUST BE INFORMED
> that vista is the most HORRIBLE OS ever made
>
> if you cant help the OP I suggest you shut up and stop giving him ill
> advice
>
> idiot
>
> Ï "joel406" <joel406.30yt62@no-mx.forums.net> Ýãñáøå óôï ìÞíõìá
> news:joel406.30yt62@no-mx.forums.net...
>>
>> listen even more carefully....
>>
>> Upgrade to Vista if you have done everything that Rick said.
>>
>> Never ever listen to people that talk about Vista like kiddie clause
>> did.
>>
>> He doesnt know how to properly use a computer otherwise Vista would
>> work for him the way it does for those of us that do know how to use
>> one.
>>
>> Vista is awesome and yes now is the time to upgrade.
>>
>>
>> --
>> joel406
>
>

Frank wrote:
> Derik wrote:
>
>> alright let me tell u about vista. it looks cool and has a few new
>> things that u cannot do in xp, but it also changes everything u can do
>> in xp and makes it different.
>
> Yeah, it's a new OS. It is not just an "upgraded or improved" XP.
>
> for example in xp you can easily change
>> settings for your computer. but in vista it makes changing things so
>> much more difficult.
>
> Really? Like what for example?

>> well for one trying to change desktop settings is a lot more
complicated and so is the networking.
>
> and if anyone wants to say that im just dumb and
>> dont know how to use a computer ill have u know that im microsoft
>> certified so i assure u that i can use a computer just fine.
>
> Wonderful! Then you knew going in that Vista is a new OS and that there
> is a slight "learning curve", right?

>> yes i did know that which is one reason y i wanted to get vista is
so i can learn how to use it. it has been very easy so far except for
the whole moving/changing things around part.
>
> dont get me
>> wrong vista is nice but it is not neccesary to get it unless u really
>> want to get it and learn how to use it.
>
> Yep! That is correct and has been correct since DOS, right? Not needed,
> just wanted, right?

>> as a matter of fact there are still some ppl who like useing DOS, or
didnt u know that. i on the other hand prefer the new stuff.
>
> so if your computer is running
>> just fine with xp then i would just keep xp and wait for sp3 to come out.
>
> Sorry, but that is no longer true. MS has repeatedly stated that SP's
> will no long have the dramatic effect that they've had before, like XP
> SP1-2. In fact they will simply be a compilation of all previous updates
> and fixes.
> So waiting is...useless?

>> not really, there is not reason to get vista if xp is working just
fine. there are some ppl who are still running 95 or 98 b/c they have no
need to upgrade. i mean yes eventually u will probable want to upgrade
but there is no need for it right away.
>
> remember if its not broken then there is no need to try and fix it.
>
> Exactly, so why did we leave DOS?
> Frank

>> as i said earlier not everyone has left DOS.

windows me was bad vista was worse...
all the other OS you decribe were indeed crap but they didnt have the
potential to ruine so many peoples computer experience as Vista does

vista is a weapon of mass crappyness


? "Rick Rogers" <rick@mvps.org> ?????? ??? ??????
news:u4c3WlSNIHA.2064@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>> you are entitiled to your opinion but the original poster MUST BE
>> INFORMED that vista is the most HORRIBLE OS ever made
>
> Incorrect. Lindows was/is. WindowsME was also horrendous on any system
> that wasn't designed for it (but was ok on those that were), as were
> several of the early consumer versions of Linux by Redhat and
> Win3.whogivesa****. By comparison to those disasters, Vista is a dream. In
> my overall rankings of modern era 32-bit OS's, I'd choose (for their
> respective times) Win98, WinXP, and Mandrake 9. Vista's not far behind
> though.
>
> --
> Best of Luck,
>
> Rick Rogers, aka "Nutcase" - Microsoft MVP
> http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/
> Windows help - www.rickrogers.org
> My thoughts http://rick-mvp.blogspot.com
>
> "vista claus" <ber@dormi.co.uk> wrote in message
> news:4752edc7$1@newsgate.x-privat.org...
>> you are an idiot...
>>
>> you are entitiled to your opinion but the original poster MUST BE
>> INFORMED that vista is the most HORRIBLE OS ever made
>>
>> if you cant help the OP I suggest you shut up and stop giving him ill
>> advice
>>
>> idiot
>>
>> Ï "joel406" <joel406.30yt62@no-mx.forums.net> Ýãñáøå óôï ìÞíõìá
>> news:joel406.30yt62@no-mx.forums.net...
>>>
>>> listen even more carefully....
>>>
>>> Upgrade to Vista if you have done everything that Rick said.
>>>
>>> Never ever listen to people that talk about Vista like kiddie clause
>>> did.
>>>
>>> He doesnt know how to properly use a computer otherwise Vista would
>>> work for him the way it does for those of us that do know how to use
>>> one.
>>>
>>> Vista is awesome and yes now is the time to upgrade.
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> joel406
>>
>>
>