Re: Vista giving out copies?

Although I see Microsoft's point with giving it to technet testers, I am a
part of technet, but I believe I ended up using the CPP. I spend roughly 800
hours testing this OS, reporting through various windows tools as well as the
forms. In my opinion anyone that contributed should at least have received a
lower version. The funny part is I cant afford windows, so I suppose I'm back
to linux when this beta runs out.

Irony is fun.

It's been fun everybody, I'll see you with the next beta!

"HastaLavista" wrote:

>
>
> > I am not an "official" Technet Beta tester either.
>
> That's why you wont get anything like most of us.
>
> Techbeta is limited and it's up to Msft who is selected to participate.
>
> CPP is for everyone. If they would give vista to cpp free.. well imagine the
> sum.
>
> ....
>
>

You have to be on your toes if you want a free copy. For example, check out
http://www.powertogether.com.

Yes, you missed the boat!

--
/* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
* Robert Firth *
* Windows Vista x86 RTM *
* http://www.WinVistaInfo.org *
* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * */

"Tim Starid" <TimStarid@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news7834F8F-125E-42DB-86B5-E47BABBF890F@microsoft.com...
> Although I see Microsoft's point with giving it to technet testers, I am a
> part of technet, but I believe I ended up using the CPP. I spend roughly
> 800
> hours testing this OS, reporting through various windows tools as well as
> the
> forms. In my opinion anyone that contributed should at least have received
> a
> lower version. The funny part is I cant afford windows, so I suppose I'm
> back
> to linux when this beta runs out.
>
> Irony is fun.
>
> It's been fun everybody, I'll see you with the next beta!
>
> "HastaLavista" wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> > I am not an "official" Technet Beta tester either.
>>
>> That's why you wont get anything like most of us.
>>
>> Techbeta is limited and it's up to Msft who is selected to participate.
>>
>> CPP is for everyone. If they would give vista to cpp free.. well imagine
>> the
>> sum.
>>
>> ....
>>
>>

The Beta program operates on many modes. There are different groups for
different focuses. The Vista "beta test" that obtained the free betas had
gone through many, many hours of work on specific features. We had to
install, reinstall, update, submit feedback, test, keep track of issues, etc
etc. This was the development team's way of making sure various functions
they were working on were functioning properly.

The Customer Preview Program was an entirely different focus. For one, it
was largely to give the public an idea of what to expect with the next OS.
It came with a feedback tool, which many had used. It opened up to a far
wider audience than the specific focus group of the technical beta program.

In reality, and I'm going to be honest, nobody "deserves" anything. We do
the beta testing to help out. The Windows development team is nice and
rewards us for hard work, but by no means are they obligated to and by no
means does anyone "deserve" a reward.

Everyone is greatful to those that submitted reports during the CPP. That's
great. But submitting a bug report on a product you're playing around with
versus full on beta testing it are entirely different things.


"Tim Starid" <TimStarid@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news7834F8F-125E-42DB-86B5-E47BABBF890F@microsoft.com...
> Although I see Microsoft's point with giving it to technet testers, I am a
> part of technet, but I believe I ended up using the CPP. I spend roughly
> 800
> hours testing this OS, reporting through various windows tools as well as
> the
> forms. In my opinion anyone that contributed should at least have received
> a
> lower version. The funny part is I cant afford windows, so I suppose I'm
> back
> to linux when this beta runs out.
>
> Irony is fun.
>
> It's been fun everybody, I'll see you with the next beta!
>
> "HastaLavista" wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> > I am not an "official" Technet Beta tester either.
>>
>> That's why you wont get anything like most of us.
>>
>> Techbeta is limited and it's up to Msft who is selected to participate.
>>
>> CPP is for everyone. If they would give vista to cpp free.. well imagine
>> the
>> sum.
>>
>> ....
>>
>>

"full on beta testing" - you have got to be kidding.
The only requirement to receive a free copy of Vista was to have submitted
*one* bug report which is hardly 'full on'.


"Mike C." <magamiako@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> The Beta program operates on many modes. There are different groups for
> different focuses. The Vista "beta test" that obtained the free betas had
> gone through many, many hours of work on specific features. We had to
> install, reinstall, update, submit feedback, test, keep track of issues,
> etc etc. This was the development team's way of making sure various
> functions they were working on were functioning properly.
>
> The Customer Preview Program was an entirely different focus. For one, it
> was largely to give the public an idea of what to expect with the next OS.
> It came with a feedback tool, which many had used. It opened up to a far
> wider audience than the specific focus group of the technical beta
> program.
>
> In reality, and I'm going to be honest, nobody "deserves" anything. We do
> the beta testing to help out. The Windows development team is nice and
> rewards us for hard work, but by no means are they obligated to and by no
> means does anyone "deserve" a reward.
>
> Everyone is greatful to those that submitted reports during the CPP.
> That's great. But submitting a bug report on a product you're playing
> around with versus full on beta testing it are entirely different things.
>
>
> "Tim Starid" <TimStarid@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news7834F8F-125E-42DB-86B5-E47BABBF890F@microsoft.com...
>> Although I see Microsoft's point with giving it to technet testers, I am
>> a
>> part of technet, but I believe I ended up using the CPP. I spend roughly
>> 800
>> hours testing this OS, reporting through various windows tools as well as
>> the
>> forms. In my opinion anyone that contributed should at least have
>> received a
>> lower version. The funny part is I cant afford windows, so I suppose I'm
>> back
>> to linux when this beta runs out.
>>
>> Irony is fun.
>>
>> It's been fun everybody, I'll see you with the next beta!
>>
>> "HastaLavista" wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>
>>> > I am not an "official" Technet Beta tester either.
>>>
>>> That's why you wont get anything like most of us.
>>>
>>> Techbeta is limited and it's up to Msft who is selected to participate.
>>>
>>> CPP is for everyone. If they would give vista to cpp free.. well imagine
>>> the
>>> sum.
>>>
>>> ....
>>>
>>>
>

It's pathetic that MS has not rewarded CPP 'bug submitters' who contributed
to the success of Vista, yet are prepared to give away Vista copies to
anyone prepared to watch some webcasts.



"Robert Firth" <webmaster@winvistainfo.org> wrote in message
news:FD4CDA09-05D8-4314-9795-7F0A29443335@microsoft.com...
> You have to be on your toes if you want a free copy. For example, check
> out http://www.powertogether.com.
>
> Yes, you missed the boat!
>
> --
> /* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
> * Robert Firth *
> * Windows Vista x86 RTM *
> * http://www.WinVistaInfo.org *
> * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * */
>
> "Tim Starid" <TimStarid@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news7834F8F-125E-42DB-86B5-E47BABBF890F@microsoft.com...
>> Although I see Microsoft's point with giving it to technet testers, I am
>> a
>> part of technet, but I believe I ended up using the CPP. I spend roughly
>> 800
>> hours testing this OS, reporting through various windows tools as well as
>> the
>> forms. In my opinion anyone that contributed should at least have
>> received a
>> lower version. The funny part is I cant afford windows, so I suppose I'm
>> back
>> to linux when this beta runs out.
>>
>> Irony is fun.
>>
>> It's been fun everybody, I'll see you with the next beta!
>>
>> "HastaLavista" wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>
>>> > I am not an "official" Technet Beta tester either.
>>>
>>> That's why you wont get anything like most of us.
>>>
>>> Techbeta is limited and it's up to Msft who is selected to participate.
>>>
>>> CPP is for everyone. If they would give vista to cpp free.. well imagine
>>> the
>>> sum.
>>>
>>> ....
>>>
>>>
>

So, you are saying you want Vista but were unwilling to watch the webcasts?

It is not really pathetic.
What is pathetic is people making such comments as if Microsoft or anyone
else owes something for free.
The Tech Beta and CPP are very different programs with different purposes.
Everyone got what was promised or more.
No one got less than what was expected.
The fact the Tech Beta program management decided to reward some of their
testers has no bearing on whether the CPP program management rewards their
participants.
Their is no expectation the management of different programs give similar
rewards for different programs with differing purposes.
The same applies to the many other programs with access to Windows Vista and
other software.

But then you already know all that as well.

--
Jupiter Jones [MVP]
http://www3.telus.net/dandemar
http://www.dts-l.org


"Mr. Vista" <Mr. Vista@lhere.com> wrote in message
news:e4FX25pFHHA.5004@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
> It's pathetic that MS has not rewarded CPP 'bug submitters' who
> contributed to the success of Vista, yet are prepared to give away Vista
> copies to anyone prepared to watch some webcasts.
>
>
>
> "Robert Firth" <webmaster@winvistainfo.org> wrote in message
> news:FD4CDA09-05D8-4314-9795-7F0A29443335@microsoft.com...
>> You have to be on your toes if you want a free copy. For example, check
>> out http://www.powertogether.com.
>>
>> Yes, you missed the boat!
>>
>> --
>> /* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
>> * Robert Firth *
>> * Windows Vista x86 RTM *
>> * http://www.WinVistaInfo.org *
>> * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * */

"Their is no expectation ..."
Is English your native language?.



"Jupiter Jones [MVP]" <jones_jupiter@hotnomail.com> wrote in message
news:%23nNfFXqFHHA.1080@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
> So, you are saying you want Vista but were unwilling to watch the
> webcasts?
>
> It is not really pathetic.
> What is pathetic is people making such comments as if Microsoft or anyone
> else owes something for free.
> The Tech Beta and CPP are very different programs with different purposes.
> Everyone got what was promised or more.
> No one got less than what was expected.
> The fact the Tech Beta program management decided to reward some of their
> testers has no bearing on whether the CPP program management rewards their
> participants.
> Their is no expectation the management of different programs give similar
> rewards for different programs with differing purposes.
> The same applies to the many other programs with access to Windows Vista
> and other software.
>
> But then you already know all that as well.
>
> --
> Jupiter Jones [MVP]
> http://www3.telus.net/dandemar
> http://www.dts-l.org
>
>
> "Mr. Vista" <Mr. Vista@lhere.com> wrote in message
> news:e4FX25pFHHA.5004@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>> It's pathetic that MS has not rewarded CPP 'bug submitters' who
>> contributed to the success of Vista, yet are prepared to give away Vista
>> copies to anyone prepared to watch some webcasts.
>>
>>
>>
>> "Robert Firth" <webmaster@winvistainfo.org> wrote in message
>> news:FD4CDA09-05D8-4314-9795-7F0A29443335@microsoft.com...
>>> You have to be on your toes if you want a free copy. For example, check
>>> out http://www.powertogether.com.
>>>
>>> Yes, you missed the boat!
>>>
>>> --
>>> /* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
>>> * Robert Firth *
>>> * Windows Vista x86 RTM *
>>> * http://www.WinVistaInfo.org *
>>> * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * */
>

Mr. Vista wrote:
> "Their is no expectation ..."
> Is English your native language?.

More likely Mr Jones trusts his spell checker and never proof reads.

Alias
>
>
>
> "Jupiter Jones [MVP]" <jones_jupiter@hotnomail.com> wrote in message
> news:%23nNfFXqFHHA.1080@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>> So, you are saying you want Vista but were unwilling to watch the
>> webcasts?
>>
>> It is not really pathetic.
>> What is pathetic is people making such comments as if Microsoft or anyone
>> else owes something for free.
>> The Tech Beta and CPP are very different programs with different purposes.
>> Everyone got what was promised or more.
>> No one got less than what was expected.
>> The fact the Tech Beta program management decided to reward some of their
>> testers has no bearing on whether the CPP program management rewards their
>> participants.
>> Their is no expectation the management of different programs give similar
>> rewards for different programs with differing purposes.
>> The same applies to the many other programs with access to Windows Vista
>> and other software.
>>
>> But then you already know all that as well.
>>
>> --
>> Jupiter Jones [MVP]
>> http://www3.telus.net/dandemar
>> http://www.dts-l.org
>>
>>
>> "Mr. Vista" <Mr. Vista@lhere.com> wrote in message
>> news:e4FX25pFHHA.5004@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>>> It's pathetic that MS has not rewarded CPP 'bug submitters' who
>>> contributed to the success of Vista, yet are prepared to give away Vista
>>> copies to anyone prepared to watch some webcasts.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> "Robert Firth" <webmaster@winvistainfo.org> wrote in message
>>> news:FD4CDA09-05D8-4314-9795-7F0A29443335@microsoft.com...
>>>> You have to be on your toes if you want a free copy. For example, check
>>>> out http://www.powertogether.com.
>>>>
>>>> Yes, you missed the boat!
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> /* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
>>>> * Robert Firth *
>>>> * Windows Vista x86 RTM *
>>>> * http://www.WinVistaInfo.org *
>>>> * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * */
>
>

Mr. Vista wrote:
> "Their is no expectation ..."
> Is English your native language?.

Are you Mr. Vista?

Of course ... I just went RTM

"Roy Coorne" <rcoorne@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:%23mOJKOsFHHA.1216@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
> Mr. Vista wrote:
>> "Their is no expectation ..."
>> Is English your native language?.
>
> Are you Mr. Vista?