VISTA memory problems (lots of them)

For some reason I really thought that VISTA was supposed to be an upgrade
from Windows XP. Why are there so many memory related problems associated
with VISTA. I have a DELL 2 GB dual core XEON system that constantly forces
applications (MS and others) to crash when more than a few windows are open
concurrently. The problems manifest themselves even more severly when Adobe
Photoshop is being used. Problems first appear as drop down menus not
opening, links not working, and just in general most functionalities freezing
on applications. When you leave a system on for long, often you have to
re-boot the system to get anything to open. If somehing happens to open, it
quickly disappears again. This is just a subset of problems I've expereinced
with the NEW Ulitimate Windows Vista with all the latest fixes. Does
microsoft have a QA group or is it missing in action? Also, I would think
that I'm not the only one reporting this, and if so, where is the Microsoft
support?

what version of photoshop?

Only CS3 is officially compatible with vista


"Romel Evans" <RomelEvans@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:98C83F6D-AD89-4C9E-98AD-801368031466@microsoft.com...
> For some reason I really thought that VISTA was supposed to be an upgrade
> from Windows XP. Why are there so many memory related problems associated
> with VISTA. I have a DELL 2 GB dual core XEON system that constantly
> forces
> applications (MS and others) to crash when more than a few windows are
> open
> concurrently. The problems manifest themselves even more severly when
> Adobe
> Photoshop is being used. Problems first appear as drop down menus not
> opening, links not working, and just in general most functionalities
> freezing
> on applications. When you leave a system on for long, often you have to
> re-boot the system to get anything to open. If somehing happens to open,
> it
> quickly disappears again. This is just a subset of problems I've
> expereinced
> with the NEW Ulitimate Windows Vista with all the latest fixes. Does
> microsoft have a QA group or is it missing in action? Also, I would think
> that I'm not the only one reporting this, and if so, where is the
> Microsoft
> support?

"Thai Berry (U.S.)" <Thai@Berry.us> wrote in message
news:4706da87$1@newsgate.x-privat.org
> what version of photoshop?
>
> Only CS3 is officially compatible with vista


I was using CS2 with no issues, for months.

ss.

Sounds like your machine is just not up to the job. One thing that Vista is
poor about is allocating processes between cores, so you might want to look
in task manager when you are experiencing problems and see what is causing
your problems. You can manual set affinity as I have to, to balance out the
load. Turning off aero, the DreamScene desktop etc could get you moving.

"Romel Evans" <RomelEvans@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:98C83F6D-AD89-4C9E-98AD-801368031466@microsoft.com...
> For some reason I really thought that VISTA was supposed to be an upgrade
> from Windows XP. Why are there so many memory related problems associated
> with VISTA. I have a DELL 2 GB dual core XEON system that constantly
> forces
> applications (MS and others) to crash when more than a few windows are
> open
> concurrently. The problems manifest themselves even more severly when
> Adobe
> Photoshop is being used. Problems first appear as drop down menus not
> opening, links not working, and just in general most functionalities
> freezing
> on applications. When you leave a system on for long, often you have to
> re-boot the system to get anything to open. If somehing happens to open,
> it
> quickly disappears again. This is just a subset of problems I've
> expereinced
> with the NEW Ulitimate Windows Vista with all the latest fixes. Does
> microsoft have a QA group or is it missing in action? Also, I would think
> that I'm not the only one reporting this, and if so, where is the
> Microsoft
> support?

the symptoms seems to say that you have a program constantly consuming and
exhausting desktop resources (and obviously not freeing them) more than a
memory problem

can you try stopping/disabling every non-vital program for your daily work?
this would include almost anything, such as systray programs, automatic
updaters, downloaders... and of course antivirus, which often causes these
kind of problems btw

and then, if all goes well it would mean that some of them is the culprit,
and the only thing left to do is enabling them day-by-day, one-by-one, until
you find it

its just a theory, but may be worth to try... another one would be a faulty
memory chip, but i think you would have blue screens more than anything else

John,
Why would my machine which is very new and definitely more than VISTA
ready not be up to par? I have a dual core XEON WOODCREST, 5130 processor
and 2 GB of storage and at least 60 GB of disk space available. I am going
to go up to 16 GB of storage, a second dual core processor and over 2 TB of
disk space and 64bit vista, hoping that I don't see these problems any
longer, but my confidence is very low that this will solve the problem.

"John Barnes" wrote:

> Sounds like your machine is just not up to the job. One thing that Vista is
> poor about is allocating processes between cores, so you might want to look
> in task manager when you are experiencing problems and see what is causing
> your problems. You can manual set affinity as I have to, to balance out the
> load. Turning off aero, the DreamScene desktop etc could get you moving.
>
> "Romel Evans" <RomelEvans@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:98C83F6D-AD89-4C9E-98AD-801368031466@microsoft.com...
> > For some reason I really thought that VISTA was supposed to be an upgrade
> > from Windows XP. Why are there so many memory related problems associated
> > with VISTA. I have a DELL 2 GB dual core XEON system that constantly
> > forces
> > applications (MS and others) to crash when more than a few windows are
> > open
> > concurrently. The problems manifest themselves even more severly when
> > Adobe
> > Photoshop is being used. Problems first appear as drop down menus not
> > opening, links not working, and just in general most functionalities
> > freezing
> > on applications. When you leave a system on for long, often you have to
> > re-boot the system to get anything to open. If somehing happens to open,
> > it
> > quickly disappears again. This is just a subset of problems I've
> > expereinced
> > with the NEW Ulitimate Windows Vista with all the latest fixes. Does
> > microsoft have a QA group or is it missing in action? Also, I would think
> > that I'm not the only one reporting this, and if so, where is the
> > Microsoft
> > support?
>
>

I'm using CS3.

"Thai Berry (U.S.)" wrote:

> what version of photoshop?
>
> Only CS3 is officially compatible with vista
>
>
> "Romel Evans" <RomelEvans@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:98C83F6D-AD89-4C9E-98AD-801368031466@microsoft.com...
> > For some reason I really thought that VISTA was supposed to be an upgrade
> > from Windows XP. Why are there so many memory related problems associated
> > with VISTA. I have a DELL 2 GB dual core XEON system that constantly
> > forces
> > applications (MS and others) to crash when more than a few windows are
> > open
> > concurrently. The problems manifest themselves even more severly when
> > Adobe
> > Photoshop is being used. Problems first appear as drop down menus not
> > opening, links not working, and just in general most functionalities
> > freezing
> > on applications. When you leave a system on for long, often you have to
> > re-boot the system to get anything to open. If somehing happens to open,
> > it
> > quickly disappears again. This is just a subset of problems I've
> > expereinced
> > with the NEW Ulitimate Windows Vista with all the latest fixes. Does
> > microsoft have a QA group or is it missing in action? Also, I would think
> > that I'm not the only one reporting this, and if so, where is the
> > Microsoft
> > support?
>
>
>

Hi Jume,
I have no doubt that something is doing that. But it seems to manifest
itself even with I have a few IE7 windows open with multiple tabs in each.
Now this may sound like I'm doing something unusual, but doing this in XP
never caused me any problems.


"Jume" wrote:

> the symptoms seems to say that you have a program constantly consuming and
> exhausting desktop resources (and obviously not freeing them) more than a
> memory problem
>
> can you try stopping/disabling every non-vital program for your daily work?
> this would include almost anything, such as systray programs, automatic
> updaters, downloaders... and of course antivirus, which often causes these
> kind of problems btw
>
> and then, if all goes well it would mean that some of them is the culprit,
> and the only thing left to do is enabling them day-by-day, one-by-one, until
> you find it
>
> its just a theory, but may be worth to try... another one would be a faulty
> memory chip, but i think you would have blue screens more than anything else
>

Task manager would certainly help in locating this problem. Are you saying
that you don't have one single program on this computer that is not on your
XP box. Unlikely! Find out which program is eating your resources. Task
manager is fit to the task - unless you have been rooted and the program
doing this bad stuff is hidden.

--

Regards,

Richard Urban
Microsoft MVP Windows Shell/User
(For email, remove the obvious from my address)


"Jume" <jume@konithuki.com> wrote in message
news:968C926A-BE68-4591-9B68-B34FCAB97EFC@microsoft.com...
> the symptoms seems to say that you have a program constantly consuming and
> exhausting desktop resources (and obviously not freeing them) more than a
> memory problem
>
> can you try stopping/disabling every non-vital program for your daily
> work? this would include almost anything, such as systray programs,
> automatic updaters, downloaders... and of course antivirus, which often
> causes these kind of problems btw
>
> and then, if all goes well it would mean that some of them is the culprit,
> and the only thing left to do is enabling them day-by-day, one-by-one,
> until you find it
>
> its just a theory, but may be worth to try... another one would be a
> faulty memory chip, but i think you would have blue screens more than
> anything else

Hi Richard,
I could tell you off hand immediately that IE is one of the biggest
memory eaters surprisingly. I know that Photoshop and lightroom take up a
lot of room depending on what your'e viewing in them, but I've had both of
them closed and had problems. I've looked at task manger when I have had the
problems and didn't notice anything very unusual. Seems like there is often
room and somehow the system stops responding.


"Richard Urban" wrote:

> Task manager would certainly help in locating this problem. Are you saying
> that you don't have one single program on this computer that is not on your
> XP box. Unlikely! Find out which program is eating your resources. Task
> manager is fit to the task - unless you have been rooted and the program
> doing this bad stuff is hidden.
>
> --
>
> Regards,
>
> Richard Urban
> Microsoft MVP Windows Shell/User
> (For email, remove the obvious from my address)
>
>
> "Jume" <jume@konithuki.com> wrote in message
> news:968C926A-BE68-4591-9B68-B34FCAB97EFC@microsoft.com...
> > the symptoms seems to say that you have a program constantly consuming and
> > exhausting desktop resources (and obviously not freeing them) more than a
> > memory problem
> >
> > can you try stopping/disabling every non-vital program for your daily
> > work? this would include almost anything, such as systray programs,
> > automatic updaters, downloaders... and of course antivirus, which often
> > causes these kind of problems btw
> >
> > and then, if all goes well it would mean that some of them is the culprit,
> > and the only thing left to do is enabling them day-by-day, one-by-one,
> > until you find it
> >
> > its just a theory, but may be worth to try... another one would be a
> > faulty memory chip, but i think you would have blue screens more than
> > anything else
>
>