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Re: vista spider solitaire helper
I read somewhere that all the 4 suit games (advanced) are not solvable but all the 2 suit games are. If this is true then the games are not randomly dealt. I can easily construct a deck of cards where you could not make a move on any of the 6 deals of the cards.
Reading that all the 2 suit games are solvable caused me to reinstall the game and see if I could in fact solve all the 2 suit games I played. In time I ran into a very hard game which lead to my constructing what I call my “spider helper”. It is an Excel spreadsheet with some VBA code behind it to make it easy to enter the cards that are exposed. Seeing which stacks had not been exposed and then concentrating them lead me to a solution for the game. Since it does take some work to enter the cards I don’t use it on every game. I do not have a precise way to decide when to use it (my mood comes into play). I would say, on average, I use the helper on maybe one out of every 10 games but that is just a guess.
On your comment that you are at 42% - I assume you are playing 2 suits like me. When I was playing 2 suit spider on XP (where you can only go back up to the last suit removal) I was at 40%. Of course in spider on Vista you can back up all the way to the beginning which makes it much easier to find a solution.
As I said, my helper does not solve the games but without it I would have given up on some games. Before I built the helper I had one that took me over 2000 moves to solve. Using the helper casts the game in a new light.
Originally Posted by Mark
Thats an amazing achievement (I'm only at 42%)
However, given that there are 104 cards and the (supposedly) random delivery
of them, aren't there hundreds of millions of possibilities?
"rrobelen" <email@example.com> wrote in message
> I play Vista spider 2 suits (intermediate). I have solved the first 516
> games (and still going). I read somewhere that all 2 suit games are
> solveable. I could not have solved the games without an Excel
> spreadsheet that I developed that does not solve the games but helps you
> solve them by keeping track of the cards you have managed to expose. I
> only use it on the hard ones but without it I would have given up on
> many. I would be happy to share it with anyone who is like me and is
> determined to solve every game. It has an easy way to enter the cards.