Sorting Folder List, Skipping the word "The"

Its impossible hard to search for a solution that involves the word
"The." I have a directory that is made up of hundreds of DVD folders.
Several of which start with "The" and I would really love to find a way
to sort the folders skipping the word "The" without having to rename
each folder (ie.."Dark Knight, The")
So if anyone has any ideas or anything Id love to hear it. Id prefer to
not use any 3rd party programs if possible.
Thank you


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hockyluver

Property:value NOT The

Start here for your info: open Help and Support from your Start button and
in the search box in the Help window type in "Tips for finding files" with
out the quotes, then read and practice, this is an important first read to
find anything on your computer and quick.
Read the info from links below to further your skills.
Searching in Windows Vista, Part 1
http://windowshelp.microsoft.com/win...529ec1033.mspx
Searching in Windows Vista, Part 2
http://windowshelp.microsoft.com/Win...6426d1033.mspx
Searching in Windows Vista, Part 3
http://windowshelp.microsoft.com/Win...dc0d51033.mspx

H Brown

"hockyluver" <guest@unknown-email.com> wrote in message
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>
> Its impossible hard to search for a solution that involves the word
> "The." I have a directory that is made up of hundreds of DVD folders.
> Several of which start with "The" and I would really love to find a way
> to sort the folders skipping the word "The" without having to rename
> each folder (ie.."Dark Knight, The")
> So if anyone has any ideas or anything Id love to hear it. Id prefer to
> not use any 3rd party programs if possible.
> Thank you
>
>
> --
> hockyluver

I am not sure if you understood my question. I do not want to search I
just want the list of file folders to list them in alphabetical order
ignoring the at the Start of folder titles.


--
hockyluver

"hockyluver" <guest@unknown-email.com> wrote in message
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>
> Its impossible hard to search for a solution that involves the word
> "The." I have a directory that is made up of hundreds of DVD folders.
> Several of which start with "The" and I would really love to find a way
> to sort the folders skipping the word "The" without having to rename
> each folder (ie.."Dark Knight, The")
> So if anyone has any ideas or anything Id love to hear it. Id prefer to
> not use any 3rd party programs if possible.
> Thank you
> hockyluver

"hockyluver" <guest@unknown-email.com> wrote in message
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>
> I am not sure if you understood my question. I do not want to search I
> just want the list of file folders to list them in alphabetical order
> ignoring the at the Start of folder titles.
> hockyluver

Hi hockyluve,
Because Sorting is just away to narrow a search I got confused.

I'm not sure if your talking about files or folders or both. e.g. > "list
of file folders" "hundreds of DVD folders"
But what I will say in the following text will apply to both files and
folders. aka: subfolders.

You can use other property's in your heading columns to sort, by e.g.
(Title) just one of many possible property's you can *Sort* by, or add
custom property's to each file that you could then sort by.

I think you should delete the word "The" particularly if its the first word
in multiple files/folders name, or for that matter anywhere else in the
file/folder Name.
As administrator I would make the employee that is responsible for having
named these files/folders using "The" as the first word of the file/folder
name correct them. I would see to it they manually remove/delete "the" in
each file/folder Name and set other property in each file. If your talking
about many files/folders, this will teach them and give them a good lesson
in file management and the importance seeing to it each file has other
propriety's set. This will let you are anyone else Find, Sort, Group or
search for files/folders with less efforts.

That being said, there's most likely a way by using Command Prompt included
with
a Vista system, to remove "The" in multiple files/folders names with out
doing them
one at a time.

If someone does not reply to this post with away to use Command Prompt to
get the results you need. Then you may want to consider starting a new post
in this news group and maybe even *cross* post to "Vista.General". You need
to change the Subject and Question to something like, Subject: Delete text
characters from File Name in multiple files. Question could be: In my Vista
HP Sp1 in the Video folder there are 300 .wmv files where the file names all
start with the word "The". Is there anyway using the tools/utility that ship
with Vista to remove "The" from all 300 files at once, short of doing them
one at a time?- You need to change my wording to fit your circumstance and
give details of where these file/folders are located and even provide the
file type
extension e.g.- .mpg, .wm, .wmv .mp3,-etc. If we are talking about files.
Include the name of the folder that these folders your talking about were
created in and the names of its parent folders in your post.

>Id prefer to not use any 3rd party programs if possible.
There is of course 3rd programs that you may want to look over and try.
http://rbytes.net/software/rename-fo...ftware-review/ for one.

Having the person that Named those files/folders change each file one, one
at a time will reinforce their understanding of the importance of proper
naming of files/folders and setting other property's as they create any
files/folders on your network in the future.

So my answer is: Change the files/folders Name and don't let anybody use
"The" or words like "The" when Naming files/folders ever again. Those kind
of words tell nothing to you or anyone else about a files/folders contents.

H Brown

"hockyluver" <guest@unknown-email.com> wrote in message
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>
> Its impossible hard to search for a solution that involves the word
> "The." I have a directory that is made up of hundreds of DVD folders.
> Several of which start with "The" and I would really love to find a way
> to sort the folders skipping the word "The" without having to rename
> each folder (ie.."Dark Knight, The")
> So if anyone has any ideas or anything Id love to hear it. Id prefer to
> not use any 3rd party programs if possible.
> Thank you
> hockyluver

"hockyluver" <guest@unknown-email.com> wrote in message
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>
> I am not sure if you understood my question. I do not want to search I
> just want the list of file folders to list them in alphabetical order
> ignoring the at the Start of folder titles.
> hockyluver

Hi hockyluve,
Because Sorting is just away to narrow a search I got confused.

I'm not sure if your talking about files or folders or both. e.g. > "list
of file folders" "hundreds of DVD folders"
But what I will say in the following text will apply to both files and
folders. aka: subfolders.

You can use other property's in your heading columns to sort, by e.g.
(Title) just one of many possible property's you can *Sort* by, or add
custom property's to each file that you could then sort by.

I think you should delete the word "The" particularly if its the first word
in multiple files/folders name, or for that matter anywhere else in the
file/folder Name.
As administrator I would make the employee that is responsible for having
named these files/folders using "The" as the first word of the file/folder
name correct them. I would see to it they manually remove/delete "the" in
each file/folder Name and set other property in each file. If your talking
about many files/folders, this will teach them and give them a good lesson
in file management and the importance seeing to it each file has other
propriety's set. This will let you are anyone else Find, Sort, Group or
search for files/folders with less efforts.

That being said, there could be away using Command Prompt included with
Vista systems, to remove "The" in multiple files/folders with out doing them
one at a time.

If someone does not reply to this post with away to use Command Prompt to
get the results you need. Then you may want to consider starting a new post
in this news group and maybe even *cross* post to "Vista.General". You need
to change the Subject and Question to something like, Subject: Delete text
characters from File Name in multiple files. Question could be: In my Vista
HP Sp1 in the Video folder there are 300 .wmv files where the file names all
start with the word "The". Is there anyway using the tools/utility that ship
with Vista to remove "The" from all 300 files at once, short of doing them
one at a time?- You need to change my wording to fit your circumstance and
give details of where these file are located and even provide the file type
extension e.g.- .mpg, .wm, .wmv .mp3,-etc. If we are talking about files.

Having the person that Named those files/folders change each file one, one
at a time will reinforce their understanding of the importance of proper
naming of files/folders and setting other property's as they create any
files/folders on your network in the future.

So my answer is: Change the files/folders Name and don't let anybody use
"The" or words like "The" when Naming files/folders ever again. Those kind
of words tell nothing to you or anyone else about a file/folder contents.

H Brown

Thank you for your response Mr. Brown.
All of the items in question are just folders. I would have someone
else fix them but technically its my fault, well not really the folders
are automatically generated from a file already titled with the name
containing the "THE" if that makes sense. I did not really want to just
rename them if at all possible because I have another application that
is already dependent on the folders. I just wanted to sort so I could
easily look through the folder list and compare lists. But I guess
renaming them will be workable I would just rather a different solution.
But thank you for your input.


--
hockyluver

Give the details of the other application name,version # and the name of
the app that is auto generating the name of these folders someone could have
or know the way to deal with it.
With out details, just like the word "The", words like "automatically
generated" ,"from a file" ,"another application" ,"dependent on the folder"
is really not going to give anyone much of a ideal of what it would take to
come up with a solution that you would like to see. There are 100 million
different application out there. You give all the details in a post of what
you got how it is dependent, what file, even take it from the top. The
steps you take to make what is currently taking place take place.
Personally I would love to know what piece of software causes all folders to
auto place "the" as the first word when creating and naming a folder. You
might want to contact the developers of this software you use and ask them
how to get what you want.
Any way, if you will give the detailed information, name, rank and
horsepower in you details someone will come along with a solution or point
you to a source that may have the right solution.


H Brown
"hockyluver" <guest@unknown-email.com> wrote in message
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>
> Thank you for your response Mr. Brown.
> All of the items in question are just folders. I would have someone
> else fix them but technically its my fault, well not really the folders
> are automatically generated from a file already titled with the name
> containing the "THE" if that makes sense. I did not really want to just
> rename them if at all possible because I have another application that
> is already dependent on the folders. I just wanted to sort so I could
> easily look through the folder list and compare lists. But I guess
> renaming them will be workable I would just rather a different solution.
> But thank you for your input.
>
>
> --
> hockyluver

Well I left the app names out because they really are not the cause of
the problem. It auto generates a folder based on a file name, a movie
title. So if the movie is titled "The Abyss" then the folder generated
will be titled The Abyss I have looked into having the app fix that the
only way it will is if I rename the file before it I run the program
which is a possibility for the future but not for the folders I already
have. I really only wanted to see if there was a way in the explorer
window to have the folder list just skip the first part of a folder
title if it starts with the other wise I will just rename all of the
folders at the command line i am pretty sure I remember how to do that
otherwise I can just write something to that too. I really just didnt
want to put this much effort into this, if there was a simple solution.


--
hockyluver

Hi hockyluver
I'm going to give you away to go based on mostly my assumption of what I
think you want which is: You have hundreds of Folders and the Name on the
Folder is the same as the title of the movie or what ever they are and you
would like to retain the word "The' in the title "The Abyss" but want to
sort Folders so the next (second) word after "The" is the word the sort will
be based on. So if you had three folders named "The Abyss", "The Confession"
and "The Elephant Man" and sort A-Z you would get:
The Abyss
The Confession
The Elephant Man (I can't do it like that with a sort option, but I can do
every folder whos Name begins with "The" to look like the following
Abyss,The
Confession, The
Elephant Man, The (I just Append "The" to the folder Name and you can do
this in ONE simple operation.)

Open the folder that has the folders your talking about, change the View to
Details View. Click on the Name Column to sort your folders. Now you will
have every folder that begins in "The" all together from top to bottom no
matter if you have 1000 folders. Now where the first folder with "The"
appears in the detail view Select it then scroll down or up which ever the
case might be and find the last folder that the name starts with the word
"The". Now press Shift + select (with the mouse) that last folder. You
should now have every "THE" folder selected and highlighted in a blue color.
On that last folder RIGHT click it and from the context menu that opens
select Rename. All folders will still be highlighted in light blue and in
the name box of this folder the name will be white letters on blue
background. Just change The Abyss by cut and past "The" (append to) Abyss
then add a coma and space if you like. Now get your mouse pointer on the
screen out of the name box, in other words you can click any where but not
in the name box. ((Note: all the other names do NOT change as you were
typing they only change after you click some where else in the window) You
are now done, all your folder names that were "The Such and Such II" will
now be be "Such and Such II,The" now all those folder will SORT by what use
to be the second word in the Name of the folder with "The" appended to the
end. Just a few minuets to do from in Windows Explore.

Of course you need to take care when you create and name folders in the
future, But this is an easy way to work with multiple folder naming when you
need to get one common word out of the way or change something. I'm sure you
can do the same with the file names as well, (However some punitions and
symbols are not allowed in file names)
Lets us know how it goes for you.
THE end
H Brown
"hockyluver" <guest@unknown-email.com> wrote in message
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>
> Well I left the app names out because they really are not the cause of
> the problem. It auto generates a folder based on a file name, a movie
> title. So if the movie is titled "The Abyss" then the folder generated
> will be titled The Abyss I have looked into having the app fix that the
> only way it will is if I rename the file before it I run the program
> which is a possibility for the future but not for the folders I already
> have. I really only wanted to see if there was a way in the explorer
> window to have the folder list just skip the first part of a folder
> title if it starts with the other wise I will just rename all of the
> folders at the command line i am pretty sure I remember how to do that
> otherwise I can just write something to that too. I really just didnt
> want to put this much effort into this, if there was a simple solution.
>
>
> --
> hockyluver

DO NOT TRY DOING WHAT I SUGGESTED I MY LAST POST, AGAIN DO *NOT* TRY IT.
UNTIL I CAN GET BACK TO YOU. _DO NOT TRY IT_

"H Brown" <H.Brown@Invalid.com> wrote in message
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> Hi hockyluver
> I'm going to give you away to go based on mostly my assumption of what I
> think you want which is: You have hundreds of Folders and the Name on the
> Folder is the same as the title of the movie or what ever they are and you
> would like to retain the word "The' in the title "The Abyss" but want to
> sort Folders so the next (second) word after "The" is the word the sort
> will be based on. So if you had three folders named "The Abyss", "The
> Confession" and "The Elephant Man" and sort A-Z you would get:
> The Abyss
> The Confession
> The Elephant Man (I can't do it like that with a sort option, but I can do
> every folder whos Name begins with "The" to look like the following
> Abyss,The
> Confession, The
> Elephant Man, The (I just Append "The" to the folder Name and you can do
> this in ONE simple operation.)
>
> Open the folder that has the folders your talking about, change the View
> to Details View. Click on the Name Column to sort your folders. Now you
> will have every folder that begins in "The" all together from top to
> bottom no matter if you have 1000 folders. Now where the first folder with
> "The" appears in the detail view Select it then scroll down or up which
> ever the case might be and find the last folder that the name starts with
> the word "The". Now press Shift + select (with the mouse) that last
> folder. You should now have every "THE" folder selected and highlighted in
> a blue color. On that last folder RIGHT click it and from the context menu
> that opens select Rename. All folders will still be highlighted in light
> blue and in the name box of this folder the name will be white letters on
> blue background. Just change The Abyss by cut and past "The" (append to)
> Abyss then add a coma and space if you like. Now get your mouse pointer
> on the screen out of the name box, in other words you can click any where
> but not in the name box. ((Note: all the other names do NOT change as you
> were typing they only change after you click some where else in the
> window) You are now done, all your folder names that were "The Such and
> Such II" will now be be "Such and Such II,The" now all those folder will
> SORT by what use to be the second word in the Name of the folder with
> "The" appended to the end. Just a few minuets to do from in Windows
> Explore.
>
> Of course you need to take care when you create and name folders in the
> future, But this is an easy way to work with multiple folder naming when
> you need to get one common word out of the way or change something. I'm
> sure you can do the same with the file names as well, (However some
> punitions and symbols are not allowed in file names)
> Lets us know how it goes for you.
> THE end
> H Brown
> "hockyluver" <guest@unknown-email.com> wrote in message
> news:20c74bebafbca0dd79d53b0a4fa38f64@nntp-gateway.com...
>>
>> Well I left the app names out because they really are not the cause of
>> the problem. It auto generates a folder based on a file name, a movie
>> title. So if the movie is titled "The Abyss" then the folder generated
>> will be titled The Abyss I have looked into having the app fix that the
>> only way it will is if I rename the file before it I run the program
>> which is a possibility for the future but not for the folders I already
>> have. I really only wanted to see if there was a way in the explorer
>> window to have the folder list just skip the first part of a folder
>> title if it starts with the other wise I will just rename all of the
>> folders at the command line i am pretty sure I remember how to do that
>> otherwise I can just write something to that too. I really just didnt
>> want to put this much effort into this, if there was a simple solution.
>>
>>
>> --
>> hockyluver
>