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Can't Config Permission To Xfr Files On LAN

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Old 12-04-2008
therock
 

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Can't Config Permission To Xfr Files On LAN

Hi,

When I try to xfr a file from my desktop x64 to my laptop x86 over my
wired LAN I get a need permission prompt.

When I try to xfr a file from my laptop x86 to my x64 desktop it will
do it.
I have set full control on both machines in all the permissions
categories but it will not let me xfr afile.
I see my files on the x64 are Read Only and I un-check it and hit apply
and it returns to read only.

I have UAC disabled on both machines.


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Old 12-04-2008
Malke
 

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Re: Can't Config Permission To Xfr Files On LAN
therock wrote:

>
> Hi,
>
> When I try to xfr a file from my desktop x64 to my laptop x86 over my
> wired LAN I get a need permission prompt.
>
> When I try to xfr a file from my laptop x86 to my x64 desktop it will
> do it.
> I have set full control on both machines in all the permissions
> categories but it will not let me xfr afile.
> I see my files on the x64 are Read Only and I un-check it and hit apply
> and it returns to read only.
>
> I have UAC disabled on both machines.


Not a particularly good idea to disable UAC since it leaves you vulnerable
and some programs will not work correctly. It will not help with networking
problems, either.

You have probably forgotten to create identical user accounts/passwords on
both machines and/or have a misconfigured firewall. See below.

Problems sharing files between computers on a network are generally caused
by 1) a misconfigured firewall or overlooked firewall (including a stateful
firewall in a VPN); or 2) inadvertently running two firewalls such as the
built-in Windows Firewall and a third-party firewall; and/or 3) not having
identical user accounts and passwords on all Workgroup machines; 4) trying
to create shares where the operating system does not permit it.

A. Configure firewalls on all machines to allow the Local Area Network (LAN)
traffic as trusted. With Windows Firewall, this means allowing File/Printer
Sharing on the Exceptions tab. Normally running the Network Setup Wizard on
XP will take care of this for those machines.The only "gotcha" is that this
will turn on the XPSP2 Windows Firewall. If you aren't running a
third-party firewall or have an antivirus/security program with its own
firewall component, then you're fine. With third-party firewalls, I
usually configure the LAN allowance with an IP range. Ex. would be
192.168.1.0-192.168.1.254. Obviously you would substitute your correct
subnet. Refer to any third party security program's Help or user forums for
how to properly configure its firewall. Do not run more than one firewall.
DO NOT TURN OFF FIREWALLS; CONFIGURE THEM CORRECTLY.

B. For ease of organization, put all computers in the same Workgroup. This
is done from the System applet in Control Panel, Computer Name tab.

C. Create matching user accounts and passwords on all machines. You do not
need to be logged into the same account on all machines and the passwords
assigned to each user account can be different; the accounts/passwords just
need to exist and match on all machines. DO NOT NEGLECT TO CREATE
PASSWORDS, EVEN IF ONLY SIMPLE ONES. If you wish a machine to boot directly
to the Desktop (into one particular user's account) for convenience, you
can do this. The instructions at this link work for both XP and Vista:

Configure Windows to Automatically Login (MVP Ramesh) -
http://windowsxp.mvps.org/Autologon.htm

D. If one or more of the computers is XP Pro or Media Center, turn off
Simple File Sharing (Folder Options>View tab).

Malke
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Old 12-04-2008
therock
 

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Re: Can't Config Permission To Xfr Files On LAN

Thanks Malke,

Gosh fella I know you are offering help but I thought this was a vista
forum. All the XP stuff tosses me into a state of dyslexia.
I have no doubt you can help me I hope you stick with me.

A. I only run Vista and only it's firewall and defender. No 3rd party
anything. I do connect through a router hub a Trendnet Ndraft. No
special settings there.

B. I cannot find any of the settings you describe. I have only one
workgroup and each computer has the same login name but different
passwords. I cannot find this tab "This
is done from the System applet in Control Panel, Computer Name tab."
Are you talking XP here?

What about me not being able to change my Read only status of the files
and whay can I xfr from one pc to the other but not vise versa? and when
it tells me I need permission where do I go to give it?

Thanks.


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Old 12-05-2008
Malke
 

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Re: Can't Config Permission To Xfr Files On LAN
therock wrote:

> Gosh fella I know you are offering help but I thought this was a vista
> forum. All the XP stuff tosses me into a state of dyslexia.
> I have no doubt you can help me I hope you stick with me.


Gosh fella, you didn't say what operating systems you're running. It is
assumed that at least *one* of them is Vista since you're posting in a
Vista newsgroup, but "desktop x64 to my laptop x86" doesn't tell us much,
especially because in networking it doesn't matter about 64 or 32-bit.

> A. I only run Vista and only it's firewall and defender. No 3rd party
> anything. I do connect through a router hub a Trendnet Ndraft. No
> special settings there.
>
> B. I cannot find any of the settings you describe. I have only one
> workgroup and each computer has the same login name but different
> passwords. I cannot find this tab "This
> is done from the System applet in Control Panel, Computer Name tab."
> Are you talking XP here?


You need to read the information I gave you more carefully and with some
common sense. Obviously it is general information and obviously if you
don't have XP, that part won't be applicable to you. Again, read over
Section C. If you have the same name user account but different passwords,
THEY DON'T MATCH. And that is why you are asked to supply credentials.

The Workgroup is set in the same place in Vista as it is in XP. Or you can
type in "Workgroup" in Vista's Help & Support. However, you issues are
caused because you don't have the same user accounts/passwords on both
machines.

> What about me not being able to change my Read only status of the files
> and whay can I xfr from one pc to the other but not vise versa? and when
> it tells me I need permission where do I go to give it?


I already gave you the answer to that. If you had set up your user accounts
and passwords correctly, you would not be having these difficulties. Try
again.

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Re: Can't Config Permission To Xfr Files On LAN

ok. Thanks.


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