On Fri, 30 Mar 2007 14:38:02 -0700, Andre
>Jeff, I am having this exact same issue and, coincidentaly, I just found out
>what Keith explained today. I've changed my Downloads folder from
>C:\Users\[username]\Downloads to E:\Downloads.
Results can vary depending on exactly how you did this. Did you:
- edit registry directly via Regedit?
- use a 3rd-party tweaker?
- rt-drag the location to E:, Move, and possibly rename it there?
- rt-click the namespace object and change the Location property?
If you navigate into the User namespace, do you see one Downloads
object, or two? If two, do they have different icons and locations?
>through this path: click E:\ drive then Downloads folder, it gives me a view.
>If I go to this folder through clicking on my user name and then downloads it
>gives me another view. To tell you the truth, it is a bit annoying.
Are the locations the same, i.e. if you create a file in one, does it
show up in the other?
Are the Desktop.ini files in both "locations" the same? Test this by
copying the Desktop.ini to another place, and then comparing the two.
There may be forward and backward references involved here:
- from namespace object to file system location via CLSID
- from file system location to namespace object via Desktop.ini
>I've always wished that Windows stored folder settings (whether it is
>Documents, Pictures, Videos, All Files, etc) in the desktop.ini file, where
>it stores the folder's custom icon. It would also help to save folder
>settings through formats. I believe Windows stores these settings on the
I remember raising this with Raymond Chen back in the Win95 days,
before IE4/Win98 did much Desktop.ini stuff.
My point was that it avoid breaking the "don't store unbounded
instance data in finite global storage" rule, which was already
raising it's head in Win95 ("why do my folder settings get lost?").
His point was to ask how this would work with removable storage,
mapped network drives, multiple users etc. which he rightly suspected
I had not considered. Still, it might scale better to reproduce that
into in each Desktop.ini than try to hold that content in the
registry, and since then, Desktop.ini has become the repositor for
much of that information.
The danger with Desktop.ini (already present) is that it might provide
a mechanism to integrate dropped malware. This risk makes every
full-shared location an infection risk, and if Desktop.ini is
processed on LAN shares and removable disks, it gets worse.
This is not very relevant to your idea, because changing the view is
less dangerous than things already facilitated by Desktop.ini
>For that reason I disabe "Remember each folder's view
>settings" so that my registry doesn't get too big.
I avoid the Icon views for the same reason, in case moving one icon to
different (x,y) co-ordinates in the folder view should cause these to
be remembered for all 10 000 items in the folder.
Two things to bear in mind:
1) Vista's default views vary with content
In earlier Windows, whatever view you set as default would apply to
all locations, unless some other setting was "remembered" for that
location. But Vista has different default views depending on whether
it is a "music", "pictures", "general" etc. folder, and this in turn
may depend on the files present.
So adding a single .JPG may to what used to be a "general" folder into
"pictures" behavior, and thus a Thumbnails default view.
2) Namespace and directory settings may vary and/or clash
I'm not sure how these correlate, and they'd certainly be separated
out if the location you use as Downloads is not actually tracked as
the location for the Downloads namespace object.
It's interesting you say YMMV depending on whether you navigate via
the Users object or the E:\ file system location. I'd expect that
from XP experience, but Vista usually applies namespace rather than
file system properties, even if you navigate via the file system.
For example, let's say the namespace object Users\You\Downloads points
to the file system location E:\BLOB. You'd expect to see "Downloads"
if navigating via Users, and "Blob" if navigating from E:, but in
practice, you see E:\Downloads, not E:\BLOB.
>Sometime I change some of the folder's settings (like the width
>of the colums) so that I can see the full filename, for example.
>Imagine if Windows stores all these settings in the registry, for
>all the folders I change during my Windows installation lifetime!
That's pretty much what it does, though it will FIFO out the earliest
ones so that only the last XXX views are remembered - at least, that's
how it worked from Win95 throught to XP, with only the number of
"remembered" folders increasing over the years.
I don't know if Vista is any different in this respect.
>I didn't like the way Windows XP handled these customizations, I don't like
>the way Vista does it either.
To me, these frills are almost more hassle than they are worth. I
want List view everywhere, with a minimum of unsolicited content
groping, but that is at odds with the direction of Vista's quest to
"make it easier" and be more effective/powerful.
Mind you, I can see the value in some of these things, especially for
those with only the OS in default form (i.e. they don't have things
like Irfan View installed and integrated).
The risk is that the more stuff is groped automatically, the easier it
is for malware to find an exploitable surface.
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