15GB of unknow space used?

Hi,

I've both Vista Ultimate and Enterprise installed independently from each
other in virtual machines.

Ultimate also has Office 2007 and the used C-Drive is 10.4 GB

Enterprise has nothing additionally installed, yet its C-Drive is 24 GB!!

Both machines have been Disk Cleaned (with sageset set to remove
everything).
IE has run Delete Everything.
Neither Vista is used much (and Enterprise even less so).
The only user is Administrator.
Both machines have been defragged (not that that should matter).

Using a third party tool to access all files, I find that it calculates 11.3
GB of used space on Ultimate and 9.2 GB on Enterprise.

Because the third party tool (and even Windows Explorer) are disallowed
access to many areas of the system, I can only assume that the mysterious 15
GB of used space on Enterprise is hidden out of my reach.

Any ideas on how I can reclaim this space on Vista Enterprise?

Any ideas how I can get into the secured folders that are preventing me
viewing all the files (without having to change CACLS)?

p.s. I have UAC turned off and I'm running as Administrator.

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Bob

"Bob" <86c6c2e6-2146512712@news.postalias> wrote in message
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> Hi,
>
> I've both Vista Ultimate and Enterprise installed independently from each
> other in virtual machines.
>
> Ultimate also has Office 2007 and the used C-Drive is 10.4 GB
>
> Enterprise has nothing additionally installed, yet its C-Drive is 24 GB!!
>

My first guess is a LOT of system restore points. Just today, I "cleaned"
my C drive, including 6 months of restore points (except for the LAST one)
and I reclaimed 30GB of drive space! I was at 44.5 GB used, now I have only
14GB used. If your system is running well, I'd suggest getting rid of those
old points.

EW

Hello Bob,

Thank you for using newsgroup!

From your post, I agree with EW's guess. That is possible.

Thanks & Regards,

Ken Zhao

Microsoft Online Support
Microsoft Global Technical Support Center

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| "Bob" <86c6c2e6-2146512712@news.postalias> wrote in message
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| > Hi,
| >
| > I've both Vista Ultimate and Enterprise installed independently from
each
| > other in virtual machines.
| >
| > Ultimate also has Office 2007 and the used C-Drive is 10.4 GB
| >
| > Enterprise has nothing additionally installed, yet its C-Drive is 24
GB!!
| >
|
| My first guess is a LOT of system restore points. Just today, I
"cleaned"
| my C drive, including 6 months of restore points (except for the LAST
one)
| and I reclaimed 30GB of drive space! I was at 44.5 GB used, now I have
only
| 14GB used. If your system is running well, I'd suggest getting rid of
those
| old points.
|
| EW
|
|
|

That fixed it, thanks!

Is there a way to to get inside all the Vista locked folders?

In XP, it was only the System Volume Information that its ACL's would lock
the admin out, but in Vista, it is scattered all over the place.

You may refer to the following article to modify the access permission:
309531: How to gain access to the System Volume Information folder
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/309531/en-us

Thanks & Regards,

Ken Zhao

Microsoft Online Support
Microsoft Global Technical Support Center

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| That fixed it, thanks!
|
| Is there a way to to get inside all the Vista locked folders?
|
| In XP, it was only the System Volume Information that its ACL's would
lock
| the admin out, but in Vista, it is scattered all over the place.
|
|
|

Thanks Ken,

I've changed the cacls on the System Information File folder before, but I
didn't realize it was sanctioned by msft.

I have noticed that VSS stores its shawdow copies there, but I didn't
realize the System Restore kept its backups there also (probably because I
never use System Restore anway!),

Thanks for the info!

Bob,

Hi Bob,

Thanks for your reply. If you have any other questions, please feel free to
contact us.

Thanks & Regards,

Ken Zhao

Microsoft Online Support
Microsoft Global Technical Support Center

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| Thanks Ken,
|
| I've changed the cacls on the System Information File folder before, but
I
| didn't realize it was sanctioned by msft.
|
| I have noticed that VSS stores its shawdow copies there, but I didn't
| realize the System Restore kept its backups there also (probably because
I
| never use System Restore anway!),
|
| Thanks for the info!
|
| Bob,
|
|
|