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  #11 (permalink)  
Old 08-23-2007
bettyboop
 

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RE: Administrator Account
I am another person that is NOT happy with Vista however I had the premium
and upgraded to Ultimate now ACCESS DENIED is jumping up everywhere,then
these parameter incorrect or corrupted messages started.the people on the
network rolled my premium up and put it in a file and did what they called a
clean install.It worked for one day and I have hit every FAQ,posting
place,have ask windows & microsoft.they have a tech working on it no word
from him in over 24hrs.
People tell me to open User Accounts I have tried The only thing I haven't
tried is TNT I go C:\ access denied .go control panel user accounts
properties security(tab) advance then its Betty-PC administrator , System ,
Betty-PC and then everybody when I press the OWNERS tab guess who? Systems
is
the owner.????
I seem to remember paying for the computer and the upgrade.Help me if you
can I will try almost anything.(been told what to do with it NOT NICE.)

I can not download,update or even open a file. At the log-in window where
you put your password it says locked but lets me in ????

--
bettyboopsblue


"David Johnson" wrote:

> Seems I have the same problems as many users out there. I am the ONLY user
> on my computer and I can't do many tasks I enjoyed on past versions of
> Windows because I have to ask the "Administrator" to do t for me. I get
> enough of that on the Job. I am running Vista Home Premium. The latest "you
> can't do that!" involved installing my printer software and I'm told I can't
> use "Run as..". I must log off and log in as Administrator or else have the
> Administrator do it for me. I am at home for god's sake! I am the only
> user. Sorry but I am frustrated. Did I miss something at install and would
> it be easier to just reinstall? Please help.
>
> David
>
>

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  #12 (permalink)  
Old 10-06-2007
Stan CounsellS
 

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Re: Administrator Account
It seems there is a common problem here. When I was working I was for a time
"Adminstrator" using NT4 so I should be used to admin rights. I am confused
that Vista will not allow me to repair MS Outlook which has gone fatal: it is
a complete denial of entry, not even asking for the admin password.
--
Stan Counsell


"Daniel Côté" wrote:

> Basically the same issue here.
>
> It's difficult to install software at times because I don't have the
> permissions on my own machine. In terms of usability, very disruptive and
> frustrating. Security issues aside, perhaps different means of security
> would be beneficial.
>
> Dan

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Old 10-06-2007
Ronnie Vernon MVP
 

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Re: Administrator Account
Hi Stan

In Vista, administrator accounts are different from the traditional admin
accounts you may have been used to working with in previous versions of
windows.

A normal, user created, admin account has 2 separate tokens. Standard User
and Administrator. The account runs with the Standard User Token at all
times, unless a program needs to perform a function that requires admin
privileges. At this point the program either requests admin privileges or
UAC detects the need for admin privileges and you are presented with a
dialog that requests the privilege elevation. The benefit is that you can
operate in the relative safer environment of a standard user and still have
the power of the admin account that can be easily invoked. This gives you
complete power to either allow or deny any program that tries to gain system
wide access.

The problem is that some older older programs, that were designed with a
traditional admin account in mind, will either not function properly or
throw error messages if it cannot access restricted areas of the OS.

This can usually be overcome by starting and running the program as
administrator, if you decide that it is safe to do so.

Getting to Know User Account Control: MVP Article of the Month - October
2006:
http://www.microsoft.com/technet/com...vp/sv1006.mspx


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Microsoft MVP
Windows Shell/User


"Stan CounsellS" <StanCounsellS@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:7469D382-1288-4797-9A2B-8F1FCB47CFA8@microsoft.com...
> It seems there is a common problem here. When I was working I was for a
> time
> "Adminstrator" using NT4 so I should be used to admin rights. I am
> confused
> that Vista will not allow me to repair MS Outlook which has gone fatal: it
> is
> a complete denial of entry, not even asking for the admin password.
> --
> Stan Counsell
>
>
> "Daniel Côté" wrote:
>
>> Basically the same issue here.
>>
>> It's difficult to install software at times because I don't have the
>> permissions on my own machine. In terms of usability, very disruptive and
>> frustrating. Security issues aside, perhaps different means of security
>> would be beneficial.
>>
>> Dan


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Old 10-07-2007
Chris Game
 

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Re: Administrator Account
On Sat, 6 Oct 2007 05:45:39 -0700, Ronnie Vernon MVP wrote:

> The problem is that some older older programs, that were designed
> with a traditional admin account in mind, will either not
> function properly or throw error messages if it cannot access
> restricted areas of the OS.
>
> This can usually be overcome by starting and running the program
> as administrator, if you decide that it is safe to do so.


The puzzling thing is why 'Run as administrator' is necessary for
the standard user/administrator account set up on installing Vista.
This account surely should be able to elevate its privileges for
operations that require it through the UAC 'Do you want to continue'
dialogs. Why would you need to start the operation using 'Run as
administrator', or indeed do you need to at all?

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Chris Game

"Chance favors only the prepared mind." -- Louis Pasteur
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Old 10-07-2007
Ronnie Vernon MVP
 

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Re: Administrator Account
Chris

You may need this option for older programs that were made prior to Vista.
Most of these programs were developed assuming that everyone uses an
administrator account, despite warnings that they should not be programmed
this way.

--

Ronnie Vernon
Microsoft MVP
Windows Shell/User


"Chris Game" <chrisgame@example.net> wrote in message
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> On Sat, 6 Oct 2007 05:45:39 -0700, Ronnie Vernon MVP wrote:
>
>> The problem is that some older older programs, that were designed
>> with a traditional admin account in mind, will either not
>> function properly or throw error messages if it cannot access
>> restricted areas of the OS.
>>
>> This can usually be overcome by starting and running the program
>> as administrator, if you decide that it is safe to do so.

>
> The puzzling thing is why 'Run as administrator' is necessary for
> the standard user/administrator account set up on installing Vista.
> This account surely should be able to elevate its privileges for
> operations that require it through the UAC 'Do you want to continue'
> dialogs. Why would you need to start the operation using 'Run as
> administrator', or indeed do you need to at all?
>
> --
> Chris Game
>
> "Chance favors only the prepared mind." -- Louis Pasteur


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Old 10-08-2007
Chris Game
 

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Re: Administrator Account
On Sun, 7 Oct 2007 15:26:33 -0700, Ronnie Vernon MVP wrote:

> You may need this option for older programs that were made prior
> to Vista. Most of these programs were developed assuming that
> everyone uses an administrator account, despite warnings that
> they should not be programmed this way.


Yes, my question was really to try to understand why the OS wouldn't
offer to elevate the privileges of the user when such programs try
to access or write data outside the user's usual area, as it does
for many operations on files.

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Old 2 Weeks Ago
mz carolyn
 

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RE: Administrator Account
hi im the only user of a used computer but i dont no the administrator log on
information so now i cant restart on computer to b the administrator to
download or switch users can u tell me how to reset the computer so i can b
administrator please help asap , thankz
--
mz carolyn


"David Johnson" wrote:

> Seems I have the same problems as many users out there. I am the ONLY user
> on my computer and I can't do many tasks I enjoyed on past versions of
> Windows because I have to ask the "Administrator" to do t for me. I get
> enough of that on the Job. I am running Vista Home Premium. The latest "you
> can't do that!" involved installing my printer software and I'm told I can't
> use "Run as..". I must log off and log in as Administrator or else have the
> Administrator do it for me. I am at home for god's sake! I am the only
> user. Sorry but I am frustrated. Did I miss something at install and would
> it be easier to just reinstall? Please help.
>
> David
>
>

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