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Modifying a pages Refresh Rate

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Old 02-28-2010
WMB
 

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Modifying a pages Refresh Rate
Windows XP(Home) SP3, OE6, IE8; Plenty of RAM & HHD space. Continuous checks
for Virus/Malware
1.4Ghz, VIA Technologies, Inc. 8 kilobyte primary memory cache, 256 kilobyte
secondary memory cache, P4X266-8233, Enclosure Type: Desktop V2 Premier,
Windows XP (Home) SP3, 2 Calvary External USB 400/500 GB Hard Drives (NTFS),
1.5 GB Ram, Upgraded PSU, Belarc Advisor, Multimedia - lists, MPU-401
Compatible MIDI Device - Realtek AC'97 Audio for VIA (R) Audio Controller -
Standard Game Port. Circuit Board: P4X266-8233, Bus Clock: 100 megahertz,
BIOS: Award Software International, Inc. 6.00 PG 09/05/2001, Virus/Malware
Protection - Windows Live One Care, MS Windows Malicious SW
Removal Tool, SUPERAntiSpyware, HiJackThis, Malwarebyte Anti-Malware,
Registry Mechanic 8.0.0.900, CCleaner, and Alvira AntiVir Personal.

I read the below comment by poster VanguardLH in internetexplorer.general
newsgroup.

"I've had 72 tabs open but ran out of memory (they weren't text-only pages)
before IE starting getting overly slow probably due to excessive paging.
However, you can hit web pages that deliberately attempt to consume your CPU
and bandwidth by doing refreshes at very short intervals or by constantly
downloading streams of new content (even if YOU don't see a change in the
page because the new content looks just like the old content). Even with
just a couple tabs open, having visited one of these rude busy-making pages
can make opening other tabs very slow or using the other tabs for already
opened pages."

Concerning - "by doing refreshes at very short intervals"

Question: I use Outlook Express 6, to read newsgroups, can the message
refresh rate be extended or shortened as desired, if so how?

Thank you

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Old 02-28-2010
Bruce Hagen
 

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Re: Modifying a pages Refresh Rate

"WMB" <brown.2005@.comcast.net> wrote in message
news:ORcjByBuKHA.2448@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
> Windows XP(Home) SP3, OE6, IE8; Plenty of RAM & HHD space. Continuous
> checks for Virus/Malware
> 1.4Ghz, VIA Technologies, Inc. 8 kilobyte primary memory cache, 256
> kilobyte secondary memory cache, P4X266-8233, Enclosure Type: Desktop V2
> Premier, Windows XP (Home) SP3, 2 Calvary External USB 400/500 GB Hard
> Drives (NTFS), 1.5 GB Ram, Upgraded PSU, Belarc Advisor, Multimedia -
> lists, MPU-401 Compatible MIDI Device - Realtek AC'97 Audio for VIA (R)
> Audio Controller - Standard Game Port. Circuit Board: P4X266-8233, Bus
> Clock: 100 megahertz, BIOS: Award Software International, Inc. 6.00 PG
> 09/05/2001, Virus/Malware Protection - Windows Live One Care, MS Windows
> Malicious SW
> Removal Tool, SUPERAntiSpyware, HiJackThis, Malwarebyte Anti-Malware,
> Registry Mechanic 8.0.0.900, CCleaner, and Alvira AntiVir Personal.
>
> I read the below comment by poster VanguardLH in
> internetexplorer.general newsgroup.
>
> "I've had 72 tabs open but ran out of memory (they weren't text-only
> pages) before IE starting getting overly slow probably due to excessive
> paging. However, you can hit web pages that deliberately attempt to
> consume your CPU and bandwidth by doing refreshes at very short
> intervals or by constantly downloading streams of new content (even if
> YOU don't see a change in the page because the new content looks just
> like the old content). Even with just a couple tabs open, having
> visited one of these rude busy-making pages can make opening other tabs
> very slow or using the other tabs for already opened pages."
>
> Concerning - "by doing refreshes at very short intervals"
>
> Question: I use Outlook Express 6, to read newsgroups, can the message
> refresh rate be extended or shortened as desired, if so how?
>
> Thank you
>



Are you checking for new news messages when OE polls for new messages?
(Tools | Accounts | News | Properties | General Tab, with Get XXX headers
ay a time unchecked?). The setting has to be the same for News and Mail,
unless you set up a new identity and have one ID for each.

I normally recommend checking for mail no less that ten minutes, but you
can go lower if you don't get a lot of messages and they are not of
considerable size. If a download doesn't complete before the next check,
it will start over and you will end up with multiple messages, but not all
of them.
--
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MS-MVP [Mail]
Imperial Beach, CA

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Old 02-28-2010
Jeff Strickland
 

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Re: Modifying a pages Refresh Rate

"WMB" <brown.2005@.comcast.net> wrote in message
news:ORcjByBuKHA.2448@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
> Windows XP(Home) SP3, OE6, IE8; Plenty of RAM & HHD space. Continuous
> checks for Virus/Malware
> 1.4Ghz, VIA Technologies, Inc. 8 kilobyte primary memory cache, 256
> kilobyte secondary memory cache, P4X266-8233, Enclosure Type: Desktop V2
> Premier, Windows XP (Home) SP3, 2 Calvary External USB 400/500 GB Hard
> Drives (NTFS), 1.5 GB Ram, Upgraded PSU, Belarc Advisor, Multimedia -
> lists, MPU-401 Compatible MIDI Device - Realtek AC'97 Audio for VIA (R)
> Audio Controller - Standard Game Port. Circuit Board: P4X266-8233, Bus
> Clock: 100 megahertz, BIOS: Award Software International, Inc. 6.00 PG
> 09/05/2001, Virus/Malware Protection - Windows Live One Care, MS Windows
> Malicious SW
> Removal Tool, SUPERAntiSpyware, HiJackThis, Malwarebyte Anti-Malware,
> Registry Mechanic 8.0.0.900, CCleaner, and Alvira AntiVir Personal.
>
> I read the below comment by poster VanguardLH in internetexplorer.general
> newsgroup.
>
> "I've had 72 tabs open but ran out of memory (they weren't text-only
> pages) before IE starting getting overly slow probably due to excessive
> paging. However, you can hit web pages that deliberately attempt to
> consume your CPU and bandwidth by doing refreshes at very short intervals
> or by constantly downloading streams of new content (even if YOU don't see
> a change in the page because the new content looks just like the old
> content). Even with just a couple tabs open, having visited one of these
> rude busy-making pages can make opening other tabs very slow or using the
> other tabs for already opened pages."
>
> Concerning - "by doing refreshes at very short intervals"
>
> Question: I use Outlook Express 6, to read newsgroups, can the message
> refresh rate be extended or shortened as desired, if so how?
>


You can hit F5 to refresh the group you are in, or click out and then click
back in, anytime you want.









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Old 02-28-2010
WMB
 

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Re: Modifying a pages Refresh Rate

"Jeff Strickland" <crwlrjeff@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:hmcli5$5lh$1@news.eternal-september.org...
>
> "WMB" <brown.2005@.comcast.net> wrote in message
> news:ORcjByBuKHA.2448@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>> Windows XP(Home) SP3, OE6, IE8; Plenty of RAM & HHD space. Continuous
>> checks for Virus/Malware
>> 1.4Ghz, VIA Technologies, Inc. 8 kilobyte primary memory cache, 256
>> kilobyte secondary memory cache, P4X266-8233, Enclosure Type: Desktop V2
>> Premier, Windows XP (Home) SP3, 2 Calvary External USB 400/500 GB Hard
>> Drives (NTFS), 1.5 GB Ram, Upgraded PSU, Belarc Advisor, Multimedia -
>> lists, MPU-401 Compatible MIDI Device - Realtek AC'97 Audio for VIA (R)
>> Audio Controller - Standard Game Port. Circuit Board: P4X266-8233, Bus
>> Clock: 100 megahertz, BIOS: Award Software International, Inc. 6.00 PG
>> 09/05/2001, Virus/Malware Protection - Windows Live One Care, MS Windows
>> Malicious SW
>> Removal Tool, SUPERAntiSpyware, HiJackThis, Malwarebyte Anti-Malware,
>> Registry Mechanic 8.0.0.900, CCleaner, and Alvira AntiVir Personal.
>>
>> I read the below comment by poster VanguardLH in internetexplorer.general
>> newsgroup.
>>
>> "I've had 72 tabs open but ran out of memory (they weren't text-only
>> pages) before IE starting getting overly slow probably due to excessive
>> paging. However, you can hit web pages that deliberately attempt to
>> consume your CPU and bandwidth by doing refreshes at very short intervals
>> or by constantly downloading streams of new content (even if YOU don't
>> see a change in the page because the new content looks just like the old
>> content). Even with just a couple tabs open, having visited one of these
>> rude busy-making pages can make opening other tabs very slow or using the
>> other tabs for already opened pages."
>>
>> Concerning - "by doing refreshes at very short intervals"
>>
>> Question: I use Outlook Express 6, to read newsgroups, can the message
>> refresh rate be extended or shortened as desired, if so how?
>>

>
> You can hit F5 to refresh the group you are in, or click out and then
> click back in, anytime you want.
>
> My post may not have been as clear as i intended, sorry. I'll give a
> senario: I have opened a newsgroup and I am reading a posted message and
> its accompanying replies. The accompanying replies may contain info that i
> wish to make note of, an if its a long post, when the message refreshes it
> jumps back to the beginning of the message and you must scrowl back down
> to the point where you were reading. I was wondering if the interval of
> the refresh rate was adjustable?


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Old 02-28-2010
Bruce Hagen
 

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Re: Modifying a pages Refresh Rate

"WMB" <brown.2005@.comcast.net> wrote in message
news:u2PWhODuKHA.6140@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>
> "Jeff Strickland" <crwlrjeff@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:hmcli5$5lh$1@news.eternal-september.org...
>>
>> "WMB" <brown.2005@.comcast.net> wrote in message
>> news:ORcjByBuKHA.2448@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>>> Windows XP(Home) SP3, OE6, IE8; Plenty of RAM & HHD space. Continuous
>>> checks for Virus/Malware
>>> 1.4Ghz, VIA Technologies, Inc. 8 kilobyte primary memory cache, 256
>>> kilobyte secondary memory cache, P4X266-8233, Enclosure Type: Desktop
>>> V2 Premier, Windows XP (Home) SP3, 2 Calvary External USB 400/500 GB
>>> Hard Drives (NTFS), 1.5 GB Ram, Upgraded PSU, Belarc Advisor,
>>> Multimedia - lists, MPU-401 Compatible MIDI Device - Realtek AC'97
>>> Audio for VIA (R) Audio Controller - Standard Game Port. Circuit
>>> Board: P4X266-8233, Bus Clock: 100 megahertz, BIOS: Award Software
>>> International, Inc. 6.00 PG 09/05/2001, Virus/Malware Protection -
>>> Windows Live One Care, MS Windows Malicious SW
>>> Removal Tool, SUPERAntiSpyware, HiJackThis, Malwarebyte Anti-Malware,
>>> Registry Mechanic 8.0.0.900, CCleaner, and Alvira AntiVir Personal.
>>>
>>> I read the below comment by poster VanguardLH in
>>> internetexplorer.general newsgroup.
>>>
>>> "I've had 72 tabs open but ran out of memory (they weren't text-only
>>> pages) before IE starting getting overly slow probably due to
>>> excessive paging. However, you can hit web pages that deliberately
>>> attempt to consume your CPU and bandwidth by doing refreshes at very
>>> short intervals or by constantly downloading streams of new content
>>> (even if YOU don't see a change in the page because the new content
>>> looks just like the old content). Even with just a couple tabs open,
>>> having visited one of these rude busy-making pages can make opening
>>> other tabs very slow or using the other tabs for already opened
>>> pages."
>>>
>>> Concerning - "by doing refreshes at very short intervals"
>>>
>>> Question: I use Outlook Express 6, to read newsgroups, can the message
>>> refresh rate be extended or shortened as desired, if so how?
>>>

>>
>> You can hit F5 to refresh the group you are in, or click out and then
>> click back in, anytime you want.
>>
>> My post may not have been as clear as i intended, sorry. I'll give a
>> senario: I have opened a newsgroup and I am reading a posted message
>> and its accompanying replies. The accompanying replies may contain info
>> that i wish to make note of, an if its a long post, when the message
>> refreshes it jumps back to the beginning of the message and you must
>> scrowl back down to the point where you were reading. I was wondering
>> if the interval of the refresh rate was adjustable?

>



It is refreshing when OE polls for new messages because you have "Include
this account......" checked in Tools | Accounts | News.

What is happening is normal behavior for OE. The easiest work-around is to
work offline when reading a long post. Just add the Offline button to the
OE Toolbar.
--
Bruce Hagen
MS-MVP [Mail]
Imperial Beach, CA

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Old 02-28-2010
VanguardLH
 

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Re: Modifying a pages Refresh Rate
WMB wrote:

>> My post may not have been as clear as i intended, sorry. I'll give a
>> senario: I have opened a newsgroup and I am reading a posted message and
>> its accompanying replies. The accompanying replies may contain info that i
>> wish to make note of, an if its a long post, when the message refreshes it
>> jumps back to the beginning of the message and you must scrowl back down
>> to the point where you were reading. I was wondering if the interval of
>> the refresh rate was adjustable?


You configured the news account to be included in the polling interval that
you also configured in OE. You could disable that news account from being
included in the configured polling interval but then you will have to do the
refreshes yourself.

OE has a long-time behavior of jumping back to the top when polling for new
messages when you have scrolled down in a post. You're stuck with that
behavior in OE. It's one of the reasons why I trialed other newsreaders.
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Old 02-28-2010
Robert Aldwinckle
 

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Re: Modifying a pages Refresh Rate
"WMB" <brown.2005@.comcast.net> wrote in message
news:u2PWhODuKHA.6140@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...

(incorrect quote level due to poster quoting new material. left as is.)

>> My post may not have been as clear as i intended, sorry. I'll give a
>> senario: I have opened a newsgroup and I am reading a posted message and
>> its accompanying replies. The accompanying replies may contain info that
>> i wish to make note of, an if its a long post, when the message refreshes
>> it jumps back to the beginning of the message and you must scrowl back
>> down to the point where you were reading. I was wondering if the interval
>> of the refresh rate was adjustable?



In addition to the previous comments why not just open the message in its
own window? (Ctrl-o)

BTW I no longer subscribe to OE NG; I saw this in IE.General. Not sure
why it was cross-posted there? ; }


FYI

Robert Aldwinckle
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Old 02-28-2010
WMB
 

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Re: Modifying a pages Refresh Rate
"Robert Aldwinckle" <robald@techemail.com> wrote in message
news:uzQ4%236IuKHA.4636@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
> "WMB" <brown.2005@.comcast.net> wrote in message
> news:u2PWhODuKHA.6140@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>
> (incorrect quote level due to poster quoting new material. left as is.)
>
>>> My post may not have been as clear as i intended, sorry. I'll give a
>>> senario: I have opened a newsgroup and I am reading a posted message and
>>> its accompanying replies. The accompanying replies may contain info that
>>> i wish to make note of, an if its a long post, when the message
>>> refreshes
>>> it jumps back to the beginning of the message and you must scrowl back
>>> down to the point where you were reading. I was wondering if the
>>> interval
>>> of the refresh rate was adjustable?

>
>
> In addition to the previous comments why not just open the message in its
> own window? (Ctrl-o)
>
> BTW I no longer subscribe to OE NG; I saw this in IE.General. Not sure
> why it was cross-posted there? ; }
>
>
> FYI
>
> Robert Aldwinckle
> ---


Thanks to all who were kind enough to answer. I did check under my
Accounts, msnews properties and found my "server timeouts" settings were set
to to the short end at 30sec. I changed them to the long side, 5min. Lets
see what type of change, if any, this makes. Thanks again for the help.

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Old 02-28-2010
VanguardLH
 

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Re: Modifying a pages Refresh Rate
WMB wrote:

> Thanks to all who were kind enough to answer. I did check under my
> Accounts, msnews properties and found my "server timeouts" settings were
> set to to the short end at 30sec. I changed them to the long side, 5min.
> Lets see what type of change, if any, this makes.


That is not the *poll* interval which is not at all hard to find. Just go
look at the options. It's right on the FIRST tab that is shown to you. Now
slap your forehead.
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Old 03-01-2010
Jeff Strickland
 

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Re: Modifying a pages Refresh Rate

"WMB" <brown.2005@.comcast.net> wrote in message
news:u2PWhODuKHA.6140@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>
> "Jeff Strickland" <crwlrjeff@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:hmcli5$5lh$1@news.eternal-september.org...
>>
>> "WMB" <brown.2005@.comcast.net> wrote in message
>> news:ORcjByBuKHA.2448@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>>> Windows XP(Home) SP3, OE6, IE8; Plenty of RAM & HHD space. Continuous
>>> checks for Virus/Malware
>>> 1.4Ghz, VIA Technologies, Inc. 8 kilobyte primary memory cache, 256
>>> kilobyte secondary memory cache, P4X266-8233, Enclosure Type: Desktop V2
>>> Premier, Windows XP (Home) SP3, 2 Calvary External USB 400/500 GB Hard
>>> Drives (NTFS), 1.5 GB Ram, Upgraded PSU, Belarc Advisor, Multimedia -
>>> lists, MPU-401 Compatible MIDI Device - Realtek AC'97 Audio for VIA (R)
>>> Audio Controller - Standard Game Port. Circuit Board: P4X266-8233, Bus
>>> Clock: 100 megahertz, BIOS: Award Software International, Inc. 6.00 PG
>>> 09/05/2001, Virus/Malware Protection - Windows Live One Care, MS Windows
>>> Malicious SW
>>> Removal Tool, SUPERAntiSpyware, HiJackThis, Malwarebyte Anti-Malware,
>>> Registry Mechanic 8.0.0.900, CCleaner, and Alvira AntiVir Personal.
>>>
>>> I read the below comment by poster VanguardLH in
>>> internetexplorer.general newsgroup.
>>>
>>> "I've had 72 tabs open but ran out of memory (they weren't text-only
>>> pages) before IE starting getting overly slow probably due to excessive
>>> paging. However, you can hit web pages that deliberately attempt to
>>> consume your CPU and bandwidth by doing refreshes at very short
>>> intervals or by constantly downloading streams of new content (even if
>>> YOU don't see a change in the page because the new content looks just
>>> like the old content). Even with just a couple tabs open, having
>>> visited one of these rude busy-making pages can make opening other tabs
>>> very slow or using the other tabs for already opened pages."
>>>
>>> Concerning - "by doing refreshes at very short intervals"
>>>
>>> Question: I use Outlook Express 6, to read newsgroups, can the message
>>> refresh rate be extended or shortened as desired, if so how?
>>>

>>
>> You can hit F5 to refresh the group you are in, or click out and then
>> click back in, anytime you want.
>>
>> My post may not have been as clear as i intended, sorry. I'll give a
>> senario: I have opened a newsgroup and I am reading a posted message and
>> its accompanying replies. The accompanying replies may contain info that
>> i wish to make note of, an if its a long post, when the message refreshes
>> it jumps back to the beginning of the message and you must scrowl back
>> down to the point where you were reading. I was wondering if the interval
>> of the refresh rate was adjustable?

>




Yes. And your messages are screwed up because it looks like your Reply is
part of my Reply because of the way the > characters are inserted.

While you read a post, the fact that your reader goes out to get more
messages should not disturbe the post you are reading, but you can click
TOOLS>OPTIONS, and in the Send and Receive Messages section, increase the
time between checking for new messages. Longer delays are usually better. I
have my refresh rate set to 30 minutes. If I want to check sooner, I simply
click on the Send/Receive button.







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