Re: Cookies problem - Windows 7, IE8

Run IE8 in "No Add-Ons Mode":

The sites in question operate normally - as if cookies are being
accepted.


Disable all add-ons, all toobars, everything I can find, and run IE8
in normal mode:

The odd behavior returns, and cookies are not accepted.


-- Doug Boynton






On Thu, 05 Nov 2009 21:07:26 -0500, Doug Boynton <dwboynton@cox.net>
wrote:

>Yes, I tried resetting IE's advanced settings.
>
>However - the behavior stops when I run in no add-ons mode.
>
>Clearly, this is worth playing with some more.
>
>Thanks! There's hope!
>
>;^)
>
>-- Doug Boynton
>
>
>
>On Thu, 5 Nov 2009 19:30:14 -0500, "PA Bear [MS MVP]"
><PABearMVP@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>1. Does the behavior persist if you start IE in No Add-ons mode? To start
>>IE in No Add-ons mode:
>>
>>Troubleshooting and Internet Explorer's (No Add-ons) Mode:
>>http://blogs.msdn.com/ie/archive/2006/07/25/678113.aspx
>>
>>2. Does the behavior persist if you Reset IE Advanced settings (RIES)?
>>http://support.microsoft.com/kb/923737 <= Read before using!
>>
>>Doug Boynton wrote:
>>> No, it had not expired; but it was suggested that I uninstall it
>>> during the upgrade; and install Essentials, instead.
>>>
>>> -- db --
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thu, 5 Nov 2009 16:26:39 -0500, "PA Bear [MS MVP]"
>>> <PABearMVP@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> That's certainly a possibility, especially if your OneCare subscription
>>>> had
>>>> expired before you installed MSE.
>>>>
>>>> MSE Support Forums
>>>> http://social.answers.microsoft.com/...S/category/mse
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Doug Boynton wrote:
>>>>> Okay...ran One Care Cleanup. No joy.
>>>>>
>>>>> ("Run As Administrator" new to me.)
>>>>>
>>>>> In the process of fiddling around, created new user account and had no
>>>>> problem with either website using the new account.
>>>>>
>>>>> So...something has been corrupted in my account, yes?
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks for all the help.
>>>>>
>>>>> -- Doug Boynton
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Thu, 5 Nov 2009 13:24:26 +0100, "Vincenzo Di Russo [MVP]"
>>>>> <enzodirusso@xoom.it> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Doug Boynton wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Wed, 4 Nov 2009 23:53:50 -0500, "PA Bear [MS MVP]"
>>>>>>> <PABearMVP@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> OneCare cleanup tool
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Well, that's interesting. Didn't see instructions for a "cleanup
>>>>>>> tool" in the uninstall details for One Care. But...found it online,
>>>>>>> downloaded and ran it.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The cleanup tool says I'm not an administrator for this computer, and
>>>>>>> aborts.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> But I am. I'm the only user, and an administator.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hmmm. Curiouser and curiouser.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> -- Doug Boynton
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Right click the .exe file -> select "Run as Administrator".

It's unusual that a Reset doesn't resolve the behavior but No Add-ons mode
does, Doug. See if anything here helps:
http://blogs.msdn.com/ie/archive/2006/07/25/678113.aspx (applies to IE8,
too)

Also test IE running in another and/or a new User Account: Does the behavior
persist in normal mode? ...in No Add-ons mode? ...after a Reset?


Doug Boynton wrote:
> Yes, I tried resetting IE's advanced settings.
>
> However - the behavior stops when I run in no add-ons mode.
>
> Clearly, this is worth playing with some more.
>
> Thanks! There's hope!
>
>> 1. Does the behavior persist if you start IE in No Add-ons mode? To
>> start
>> IE in No Add-ons mode:
>>
>> Troubleshooting and Internet Explorer's (No Add-ons) Mode:
>> http://blogs.msdn.com/ie/archive/2006/07/25/678113.aspx
>>
>> 2. Does the behavior persist if you Reset IE Advanced settings (RIES)?
>> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/923737 <= Read before using!
>>
>> Doug Boynton wrote:
>>> No, it had not expired; but it was suggested that I uninstall it
>>> during the upgrade; and install Essentials, instead.
>>>
>>>> That's certainly a possibility, especially if your OneCare subscription
>>>> had
>>>> expired before you installed MSE.
>>>>
>>>> MSE Support Forums
>>>> http://social.answers.microsoft.com/...S/category/mse
>>>>
>>>> Doug Boynton wrote:
>>>>> Okay...ran One Care Cleanup. No joy.
>>>>>
>>>>> ("Run As Administrator" new to me.)
>>>>>
>>>>> In the process of fiddling around, created new user account and had no
>>>>> problem with either website using the new account.
>>>>>
>>>>> So...something has been corrupted in my account, yes?
>>>>>
>>>>>>>> OneCare cleanup tool
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Well, that's interesting. Didn't see instructions for a "cleanup
>>>>>>> tool" in the uninstall details for One Care. But...found it online,
>>>>>>> downloaded and ran it.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The cleanup tool says I'm not an administrator for this computer,
>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>> aborts.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> But I am. I'm the only user, and an administator.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hmmm. Curiouser and curiouser.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> Right click the .exe file -> select "Run as Administrator".

PABear (and all):

Thanks. For now, I give up...I'm wasting too much time. Migrating to
a new user account is too time-consuming, and since I apparently can't
_completely_ delete IE8 and _completely_ reinstall it, I've turned it
off, and will use another browser - either Flock or Firefox.

I end up doing a clean OS installation about once a year anyway, so
this will all go away then, I'm sure.

Bottom line, for those who might have similar problems was:

- Running Windows 7 (an upgrade from Vista), and after a power outage,
neither Facebook nor My Yahoo would recognize that cookies were,
indeed, turned "on." These were the tabs that were open when the
power went out, and were the only websites affected.

- Running IE8 as another user worked fine.

- Running IE8 in "no add-ons" mode resolved the problem, but even with
all add-ons turned off, running IE8 in regular mode did not resolve
the issue.

If you're searching for a similar problem, go back through the thread,
you'll find the other things we tried, but in the end - none of it
worked for me. I started uninstalling programs, but after a couple,
decided that was _really_ going to take up my time, so I gave up.

PABear, you offered expert advice, I'm sure - but I'm out of time to
mess with this, and sadly, have real work to do starting today.

Thanks, guys.

-- Doug Boynton




On Fri, 6 Nov 2009 02:35:45 -0500, "PA Bear [MS MVP]"
<PABearMVP@gmail.com> wrote:

>It's unusual that a Reset doesn't resolve the behavior but No Add-ons mode
>does, Doug. See if anything here helps:
>http://blogs.msdn.com/ie/archive/2006/07/25/678113.aspx (applies to IE8,
>too)
>
>Also test IE running in another and/or a new User Account: Does the behavior
>persist in normal mode? ...in No Add-ons mode? ...after a Reset?
>
>
>Doug Boynton wrote:
>> Yes, I tried resetting IE's advanced settings.
>>
>> However - the behavior stops when I run in no add-ons mode.
>>
>> Clearly, this is worth playing with some more.
>>
>> Thanks! There's hope!
>>
>>> 1. Does the behavior persist if you start IE in No Add-ons mode? To
>>> start
>>> IE in No Add-ons mode:
>>>
>>> Troubleshooting and Internet Explorer's (No Add-ons) Mode:
>>> http://blogs.msdn.com/ie/archive/2006/07/25/678113.aspx
>>>
>>> 2. Does the behavior persist if you Reset IE Advanced settings (RIES)?
>>> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/923737 <= Read before using!
>>>
>>> Doug Boynton wrote:
>>>> No, it had not expired; but it was suggested that I uninstall it
>>>> during the upgrade; and install Essentials, instead.
>>>>
>>>>> That's certainly a possibility, especially if your OneCare subscription
>>>>> had
>>>>> expired before you installed MSE.
>>>>>
>>>>> MSE Support Forums
>>>>> http://social.answers.microsoft.com/...S/category/mse
>>>>>
>>>>> Doug Boynton wrote:
>>>>>> Okay...ran One Care Cleanup. No joy.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ("Run As Administrator" new to me.)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> In the process of fiddling around, created new user account and had no
>>>>>> problem with either website using the new account.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> So...something has been corrupted in my account, yes?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> OneCare cleanup tool
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Well, that's interesting. Didn't see instructions for a "cleanup
>>>>>>>> tool" in the uninstall details for One Care. But...found it online,
>>>>>>>> downloaded and ran it.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> The cleanup tool says I'm not an administrator for this computer,
>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>> aborts.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> But I am. I'm the only user, and an administator.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Hmmm. Curiouser and curiouser.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Right click the .exe file -> select "Run as Administrator".

Thread history:
http://groups.google.com/group/micro...82ce929e5e920e

FWIW, you are not alone! I've encountered posts about the same behavior
after upgrading to Win7 in the (Win7) IE support forum; e.g.,
http://social.answers.microsoft.com/...2-50093e4bf09b.

You're welcome, Doug, and thanks very much for your feedback & kind words.
--
~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)
MS MVP-IE, Mail, Security, Windows Client - since 2002
www.banthecheck.com


Doug Boynton wrote:
> PABear (and all):
>
> Thanks. For now, I give up...I'm wasting too much time. Migrating to
> a new user account is too time-consuming, and since I apparently can't
> _completely_ delete IE8 and _completely_ reinstall it, I've turned it
> off, and will use another browser - either Flock or Firefox.
>
> I end up doing a clean OS installation about once a year anyway, so
> this will all go away then, I'm sure.
>
> Bottom line, for those who might have similar problems was:
>
> - Running Windows 7 (an upgrade from Vista), and after a power outage,
> neither Facebook nor My Yahoo would recognize that cookies were,
> indeed, turned "on." These were the tabs that were open when the
> power went out, and were the only websites affected.
>
> - Running IE8 as another user worked fine.
>
> - Running IE8 in "no add-ons" mode resolved the problem, but even with
> all add-ons turned off, running IE8 in regular mode did not resolve
> the issue.
>
> If you're searching for a similar problem, go back through the thread,
> you'll find the other things we tried, but in the end - none of it
> worked for me. I started uninstalling programs, but after a couple,
> decided that was _really_ going to take up my time, so I gave up.
>
> PABear, you offered expert advice, I'm sure - but I'm out of time to
> mess with this, and sadly, have real work to do starting today.
>
> Thanks, guys.