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Interesting performance issue IE8 on Vista

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Old 07-09-2009
Gordon
 

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Interesting performance issue IE8 on Vista
I originally used Windows Update to install all the windows updates
including IE8 and found that IE8 was quite slow to start and close.
Interestingly I have just re-installed Vista, and installed SP1 from the
separate download before using WU, rather than allow WU to do it. The
difference in IE8 performance in opening and closing is noticeable -
definitely quite a bit faster.

Just my experience that may help someone.... :-)

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Old 07-09-2009
Daniel Crichton
 

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Re: Interesting performance issue IE8 on Vista
Gordon wrote on Thu, 9 Jul 2009 13:51:26 +0100:

> I originally used Windows Update to install all the windows updates
> including IE8 and found that IE8 was quite slow to start and close.
> Interestingly I have just re-installed Vista, and installed SP1 from
> the separate download before using WU, rather than allow WU to do it.
> The difference in IE8 performance in opening and closing is noticeable
> - definitely quite a bit faster.


> Just my experience that may help someone.... :-)


Personally I would have reset IE and run in No Addons mode rather than
reinstalling the entire OS - you may well have found that achieved the same
thing. It wouldn't matter if you installed SP1 from WU or from somewhere
else - it's still installing the same updates.

I would also bet that if you installed all the add-ons you had under Vista
before you're likely to find yourself with IE running slow again if you
don't watch out for the known problems (Spybot Immunization, incompatible
add-ons, etc).

I've only had to reinstall the OS on my home PC once in 6 years - and that
was only because the hard drive failed

--
Dan


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Old 07-09-2009
Gordon
 

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Re: Interesting performance issue IE8 on Vista

"Daniel Crichton" <msnews@worldofspack.com> wrote in message
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> Gordon wrote on Thu, 9 Jul 2009 13:51:26 +0100:
>
>> I originally used Windows Update to install all the windows updates
>> including IE8 and found that IE8 was quite slow to start and close.
>> Interestingly I have just re-installed Vista, and installed SP1 from
>> the separate download before using WU, rather than allow WU to do it.
>> The difference in IE8 performance in opening and closing is noticeable
>> - definitely quite a bit faster.

>
>> Just my experience that may help someone.... :-)

>
> Personally I would have reset IE and run in No Addons mode rather than
> reinstalling the entire OS -


I'd changed the OS!

> thing. It wouldn't matter if you installed SP1 from WU or from somewhere
> else - it's still installing the same updates.


Not quite. In Programs and Features - View Installed Updates there are now
only 88 as opposed to many times that prior to installing SP1 first....


> I would also bet that if you installed all the add-ons you had under Vista
> before you're likely to find yourself with IE running slow again if you
> don't watch out for the known problems (Spybot Immunization, incompatible
> add-ons, etc).


No add-ons are and were, installed other than the ones that come
automatically with IE8....


>
> I've only had to reinstall the OS on my home PC once in 6 years - and that
> was only because the hard drive failed


See above.....


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Old 07-09-2009
Daniel Crichton
 

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Re: Interesting performance issue IE8 on Vista
Gordon wrote on Thu, 9 Jul 2009 14:56:37 +0100:


> "Daniel Crichton" <msnews@worldofspack.com> wrote in message news:uAXDFxJAKHA.4496@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>> Gordon wrote on Thu, 9 Jul 2009 13:51:26 +0100:


>>> I originally used Windows Update to install all the windows updates
>>> including IE8 and found that IE8 was quite slow to start and close.
>>> Interestingly I have just re-installed Vista, and installed SP1 from
>>> the separate download before using WU, rather than allow WU to do
>>> it.
>>> The difference in IE8 performance in opening and closing is
>>> noticeable - definitely quite a bit faster.


>>> Just my experience that may help someone.... :-)


>> Personally I would have reset IE and run in No Addons mode rather
>> than reinstalling the entire OS -


> I'd changed the OS!


You state in your post "re-installed Vista", which suggests that you already
had Vista and had reinstalled it.


>> thing. It wouldn't matter if you installed SP1 from WU or from
>> somewhere else - it's still installing the same updates.


> Not quite. In Programs and Features - View Installed Updates there are
> now only 88 as opposed to many times that prior to installing SP1
> first....


That's because SP1 included a lot of those updates already - they're still
installed, you just don't see them listed individually.

>> I would also bet that if you installed all the add-ons you had under
>> Vista before you're likely to find yourself with IE running slow
>> again if you don't watch out for the known problems (Spybot
>> Immunization, incompatible add-ons, etc).


> No add-ons are and were, installed other than the ones that come
> automatically with IE8....


So you never installed that put an add-on in IE? No Flash, PDF reader,
toolbars (eg. Google), no anti-virus, no popup handlers? Nothing whatsoever?
Not a single ActiveX control?

>> I've only had to reinstall the OS on my home PC once in 6 years - and
>> that was only because the hard drive failed


> See above.....


I did, and you stated you "re-installed Vista". So, did you reinstall, or
did you switch from a different OS? In the case of changing the OS entirely
the comparison is irrelevant, and you should have stated that clearly in the
first place. If you had Vista before, and have Vista again now, that's a
reinstall - you haven't changed the OS.

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Old 07-09-2009
Gordon
 

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Re: Interesting performance issue IE8 on Vista

"Daniel Crichton" <msnews@worldofspack.com> wrote in message
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>
> I did, and you stated you "re-installed Vista". So, did you reinstall, or
> did you switch from a different OS? In the case of changing the OS
> entirely the comparison is irrelevant, and you should have stated that
> clearly in the first place. If you had Vista before, and have Vista again
> now, that's a reinstall - you haven't changed the OS.
>


Sigh - Vista > Ubuntu > Vista......

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Old 07-09-2009
Daniel Crichton
 

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Re: Interesting performance issue IE8 on Vista
Gordon wrote on Thu, 9 Jul 2009 16:47:55 +0100:


> "Daniel Crichton" <msnews@worldofspack.com> wrote in message news:#DhfgqKAKHA.2604@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...


>> I did, and you stated you "re-installed Vista". So, did you
>> reinstall, or did you switch from a different OS? In the case of
>> changing the OS entirely the comparison is irrelevant, and you
>> should have stated that clearly in the first place. If you had Vista
>> before, and have Vista again now, that's a reinstall - you haven't
>> changed the OS.



> Sigh - Vista > Ubuntu > Vista......


Oh, a comedian. Why didn't you state that in the first place. It's
irrelevant to the issue though - you've got the same updates installed now
as you did before in your older Vista install with SP1 (assuming that you
did have SP1 before, you've been really vague about everything else so far),
you just installed them all in one go rather than one at time. All you've
done is eliminated something else you had installed that wasn't from WU.

--
Dan


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Old 07-09-2009
PA Bear [MS MVP]
 

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Re: Interesting performance issue IE8 on Vista
KB969897 (released on 09 Jun-09) included an undocumented fix to improve new
window/tab loading speed. Had KB969897 been installed before you reinstall
Vista and may be assume it's installed now?
--
~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)
MS MVP-IE, Mail, Security, Windows Client - since 2002


Gordon wrote:
> I originally used Windows Update to install all the windows updates
> including IE8 and found that IE8 was quite slow to start and close.
> Interestingly I have just re-installed Vista, and installed SP1 from the
> separate download before using WU, rather than allow WU to do it. The
> difference in IE8 performance in opening and closing is noticeable -
> definitely quite a bit faster.
>
> Just my experience that may help someone.... :-)


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Old 07-09-2009
Gordon
 

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Re: Interesting performance issue IE8 on Vista

"PA Bear [MS MVP]" <PABearMVP@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> KB969897 (released on 09 Jun-09) included an undocumented fix to improve
> new window/tab loading speed. Had KB969897 been installed before you
> reinstall Vista and may be assume it's installed now?


I presume it was installed prior to my foray into Linux, because that
happened at the end of June - it certainly is installed now!

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Old 07-09-2009
VanguardLH
 

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Re: Interesting performance issue IE8 on Vista
Gordon wrote:

> I originally used Windows Update to install all the windows updates
> including IE8 and found that IE8 was quite slow to start and close.
> Interestingly I have just re-installed Vista, and installed SP1 from the
> separate download before using WU, rather than allow WU to do it. The
> difference in IE8 performance in opening and closing is noticeable -
> definitely quite a bit faster.


By doing a fresh install of Vista, you would have wiped all entries that
existed in the Restricted Sites security zone. IE8 is known to get slow
when there are thousands of sites listed under the Restricted Sites
security zone. The cure is to clean out this list and only add the few
sites that you actually visit and want to thoroughly neuter (and let the
new security features in IE8 handle the rest).

Several security programs will insert thousands of entries into the
Restricted Sites security zone. SpywareBlaster and Spybot S&D are just
a couple of them. If you don't still have these utilities (to use them
to remove all their entries but which is sometimes incomplete), you'll
find manual removal is tedious using IE's dialogs. You can remove the
registry keys more quickly but many folks are fearful of putzing with
the registry. You can save:

http://www.mvps.org/winhelp2002/DelDomains.inf

to a file, right-click on it, and select Install. This will make
registry changes to delete the ZoneMap entries and recreate them (but
empty). ALL sites in every security zone are deleted. If you have
entries in the Trusted Sites zone, record them before deletion.
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Old 07-09-2009
PA Bear [MS MVP]
 

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Re: Interesting performance issue IE8 on Vista
Gordon wrote:
>> KB969897 (released on 09 Jun-09) included an undocumented fix to improve
>> new window/tab loading speed. Had KB969897 been installed before you
>> reinstall Vista and may be assume it's installed now?

>
> I presume it was installed prior to my foray into Linux, because that
> happened at the end of June - it certainly is installed now!


Then one assumes that any performance issues are NOT being caused by the
presence of a large number of sites configured to run in Restricted Sites
zone (Ó la Spybot and/or ZonedOut).

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