IE8 & WLM

The thing we have got to get through the hard noodles of the developers is
as follows:

Yes -- implement new security fixes in updates as required.

No -- do NOT try to change the GUI everytime you upgrade, simply because you
want to be "creative", "original" and "artistic" UNLESS you are adding truly
useful and DESIRED [find out from the users before you do it] features.
--
D. Spencer Hines
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"PA Bear [MS MVP]" <PABearMVP@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:OCUAxWdzJHA.3896@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...

> IE installs/uninstalls are most successful if you disable all real-time
> "system protections" (e.g., anti-virus; anti-spyware; third-party
> firewalls)
> and enable the Windows Firewall prior to installing/uninstalling. Ditto
> for
> all Windows Service Packs.
>
> Back in the Win4.x days (e.g., Win98), your preference for doing periodic
> "clean installs" made a little bit of sense IMHO but the same cannot be
> said
> of Win5.x (WinXP) and higher.
>
> I couldn't care less which browser you or anyone else uses. I do care
> about
> maintaining and securing Windows OS (which includes IE as a literal part
> of
> the OS) properly. I do care if users install major system upgrades (e.g.,
> IE8) without doing some reading beforehand.
>
>
> pc nerd wrote:
>>>>>>> [Was Avast] running in the background when you installed
>>>>>>> and/or uninstalled IE8?
>>
>> Yes.
>>
>> Well, if XP starts crashing & locking up & stuff, then I'll format the
>> hard
>> drive & reinstall XP. I'm personally of the school of thought that it is
>> a
>> good idea to periodically reinstall XP. (I think that it's called Windows
>> rot.) I want to build a PC with Vista, & I've been thinking about ways
>> that
>> I can easily reinstall Vista. Right now, I want to create an image after
>> I
>> install Vista & periodically create images.
>>
>> Why are you so defensive of IE? I've tried Safari, Chrome, IE, Netscape &
>> Opera & my personal preference is Firefox.
>>
>> "PA Bear [MS MVP]" wrote:
>>
>>> Perhaps the third time will be the charm:
>>>>>>> [Was Avast] running in the background when you installed
>>>>>>> and/or uninstalled IE8?
>>>
>>>> I didn't have any problems installing IE 8.
>>>
>>> The fact the you didn't have any problems installing IE8 does not
>>> necessarily mean it was installed properly.
>>>
>>> Similarly, the fact the you may not have had any problems uninstalling
>>> IE8
>>> does not necessarily mean it was uninstalled properly or completely or
>>> that
>>> Windows isn't working properly now.
>>>
>>>> Somehow, IE 8 screwed up the settings of IE 6.
>>>
>>> No, somehow the way that you installed and/or uninstall IE8 screwed up
>>> IE6
>>> *and* Windows.
>>>
>>> No-charge support for Internet Explorer 8 installation, set-up and usage
>>> (only) is available via the phone based on your locale through 31
>>> December
>>> 2009. Customers must be running Windows XP or Windows Vista in a
>>> non-domain
>>> environment.
>>> => US & CA Residents: 1-866-234-6020
>>> => Other locales:
>>> https://support.microsoft.com/oas/de...px?&prid=13043
>>>
>>> Personally, I'd recommend backing up your personal data and then
>>> formatting
>>> and doing a clean install. NB: A Repair Install will NOT help!
>>>
>>> Good luck.
>>>
>>> pc nerd wrote:
>>>>> Something's very wrong with your computer or the way you installed
>>>>> IE8.
>>>>
>>>> I didn't have any problems installing IE 8.
>>>>
>>>>> Actually, it is a big deal: IE is an integral part of the Windows OS.
>>>>> If
>>>>> IE's not working properly, Windows isn't either.
>>>>
>>>> I haven't had any problems with Windows. I didn't have any problems AT
>>>> ALL
>>>> using IE 6 to access my e-mail BEFORE I installed IE 8. AFTER I
>>>> installed
>>>> IE
>>>> 8, I couldn't access my e-mail with IE 8. AFTER I uninstalled IE 8, I
>>>> couldn't access my e-mail with IE 6. What other explanation is there?
>>>> Somehow, IE 8 screwed up the settings of IE 6. I noticed that IE 8
>>>> still
>>>> manages the Favorites the same way as older versions of IE. I like the
>>>> way
>>>> Firefox manages bookmarks. That's why I prefer Firefox.
>>>>
>>>> "PA Bear [MS MVP]" wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Reposting:
>>>>>>> [Was Avast] running in the background when you installed
>>>>>>> and/or uninstalled IE8?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Has a Norton or McAfee application ever been installed on this
>>>>>>> machine
>>>>>>> (e.g., a free-trial version that came preinstalled when you bought
>>>>>>> it)?
>>>>>
>>>>>> Windows didn't create a Restore point
>>>>>
>>>>> Something's very wrong with your computer or the way you installed
>>>>> IE8.
>>>>>
>>>>>> It's annoying, but no big deal because I prefer Firefox anyway. I
>>>>>> installed
>>>>>> a plugin that switches from Firefox to IE if Firefox has a problem
>>>>>> displaying a web page correctly.
>>>>>
>>>>> Actually, it is a big deal: IE is an integral part of the Windows OS.
>>>>> If
>>>>> IE's not working properly, Windows isn't either.
>>>>>
>>>>> pc nerd wrote:
>>>>>> I use Avast antivirus & it is up to date. I don't use a 3rd party
>>>>>> firewal.
>>>>>> Defender is running in the background.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> BEFORE I installed IE 8, I didn't have any problems accessing my
>>>>>> e-mails
>>>>>> from IE 6. AFTER I installed IE 8, I couldn't log onto IE 8 to check
>>>>>> my
>>>>>> e-mails. AFTER I uninstalled IE 8, I couldn't log onto to IE 6 check
>>>>>> my
>>>>>> e-mails. Somehow, IE 8 screwed up IE 6 so I couldn't check my
>>>>>> e-mails.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Windows didn't create a Restore point & I didn't manually create a
>>>>>> Restore
>>>>>> point.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It's annoying, but no big deal because I prefer Firefox anyway. I
>>>>>> installed
>>>>>> a plugin that switches from Firefox to IE if Firefox has a problem
>>>>>> displaying a web page correctly.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "PA Bear [MS MVP]" wrote:
>>>>>>> [crosspost to IE General]
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> What anti-virus application or security suite is installed, is your
>>>>>>> subscription current, and is it supported in IE8? What anti-spyware
>>>>>>> applications (other than Defender)? What third-party firewall (if
>>>>>>> any)?
>>>>>>> Were any of these applications running in the background when you
>>>>>>> installed
>>>>>>> and/or uninstalled IE8?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Has a Norton or McAfee application ever been installed on this
>>>>>>> machine
>>>>>>> (e.g., a free-trial version that came preinstalled when you bought
>>>>>>> it)?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Do you have an available Restore Point predating the install of IE8?
>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>> ~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)
>>>>>>> MS MVP-IE, Mail, Security, Windows Client - since 2002
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> pc nerd wrote:
>>>>>>>> I installed IE 8 to try it out. I tried to access my e-mail, but it
>>>>>>>> wouldn't
>>>>>>>> let me. Just out of curiosity, I tried accessing my e-mail using
>>>>>>>> Firefox.
>>>>>>>> I
>>>>>>>> didn't have any problem!!! So, I uninstalled IE 8. It was on my PC
>>>>>>>> &
>>>>>>>> off
>>>>>>>> my
>>>>>>>> PC in less than an hour. I used to be able to use IE 6, but now IE
>>>>>>>> 6
>>>>>>>> won't
>>>>>>>> let me access my e-mail! WEIRD !!!

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