IE7 - hide URL in popup window title

Hi :-)

I would like to know if there is a way to hide the URL part of the window
title that appears in popup windows (for example "http://microsoft.com -
Microsoft" instead of just "Microsoft" like it would appear in earlier IE
versions). I tried disabling the phishing filter (only for "trusted
websites" though, because the global setting is disabled on a policy level -
this is my work computer) but that didn't seem to have any effect on popup
titles. Would it work if I disabled phishing globally or is there an other
way? Considering the global option is disabled, an alternative solution would
be great.

Thanks!

Hi Skribb,

That is a user configured security setting on the Security tab of Internet
Options. "Allow websites to open windows without address or status bar".
This is enabled by default for the Intranet zone, but disabled by default
for the Internet Zone.

In practice you would use Group Policy to set this setting for your client
machines and then also prevent user configuration of the Intranet zone
security settings. You cannot do this from client active scripting.

If you aim is to prevent savvy users from viewing your page markup or
navigating directly to secure domains, you are out of luck as you will also
have to hide the users browser history. Still a savvy user or developer will
be able to use a packet sniffer to find the location of your documents.

In VS asp.net you can use Forms validation to ensure that they can only
access pages once they have logged in and been authenticated.
or
In other languages
on each page your would test for the HTTPReferrer. If it is empty then they
navigated to the page from their history, favorites or address bar. You
should also maintain and test for a session variable that indicates their
logged in status.

Regards.

"skribb" <skribb@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:27C67AD0-BCFC-4A86-A0A2-0D5A154E5B71@microsoft.com...
> Hi :-)
>
> I would like to know if there is a way to hide the URL part of the window
> title that appears in popup windows (for example "http://microsoft.com -
> Microsoft" instead of just "Microsoft" like it would appear in earlier IE
> versions). I tried disabling the phishing filter (only for "trusted
> websites" though, because the global setting is disabled on a policy
> level -
> this is my work computer) but that didn't seem to have any effect on popup
> titles. Would it work if I disabled phishing globally or is there an other
> way? Considering the global option is disabled, an alternative solution
> would
> be great.
>
> Thanks!

Hi rob - thanks for the swift reply.

I am not the admin at my place of work, just an end user. My concern is
merely aesthetical, so basically, I just want to hide the URL so that I can
easier find windows in the taskbar (because if I have several popup windows
from the same domain, they all look the same in the taskbar, causing slight
confusion/frustration on my part). Oh and, just to make sure I'm being
understood, I am not talking about the dropdown adress bar that is sometimes
added to popups, I am referring to when the page URL is prepended to the
actual page title (in the window's title bar).

"rob^_^" wrote:

> Hi Skribb,
>
> That is a user configured security setting on the Security tab of Internet
> Options. "Allow websites to open windows without address or status bar".
> This is enabled by default for the Intranet zone, but disabled by default
> for the Internet Zone.
>
> In practice you would use Group Policy to set this setting for your client
> machines and then also prevent user configuration of the Intranet zone
> security settings. You cannot do this from client active scripting.
>
> If you aim is to prevent savvy users from viewing your page markup or
> navigating directly to secure domains, you are out of luck as you will also
> have to hide the users browser history. Still a savvy user or developer will
> be able to use a packet sniffer to find the location of your documents.
>
> In VS asp.net you can use Forms validation to ensure that they can only
> access pages once they have logged in and been authenticated.
> or
> In other languages
> on each page your would test for the HTTPReferrer. If it is empty then they
> navigated to the page from their history, favorites or address bar. You
> should also maintain and test for a session variable that indicates their
> logged in status.
>
> Regards.
>
> "skribb" <skribb@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:27C67AD0-BCFC-4A86-A0A2-0D5A154E5B71@microsoft.com...
> > Hi :-)
> >
> > I would like to know if there is a way to hide the URL part of the window
> > title that appears in popup windows (for example "http://microsoft.com -
> > Microsoft" instead of just "Microsoft" like it would appear in earlier IE
> > versions). I tried disabling the phishing filter (only for "trusted
> > websites" though, because the global setting is disabled on a policy
> > level -
> > this is my work computer) but that didn't seem to have any effect on popup
> > titles. Would it work if I disabled phishing globally or is there an other
> > way? Considering the global option is disabled, an alternative solution
> > would
> > be great.
> >
> > Thanks!
>

Skribb schrieb am Thu, 23 Apr 2009 05:26:09 -0700:

> I am not talking about the dropdown adress bar that is sometimes
> added to popups, I am referring to when the page URL is prepended to the
> actual page title (in the window's title bar).

I already suspected that and was wondering ...
I have to tell you that this does not happen unless the page doesn't have a
title. Go to http://winware.org/en/linktest/linktest3.htm and click the
third link (Open in new window). The new window should show "Untitled -
Microsoft Windows Explorer" in the title bar, nothing else ("Untitled"
because I set the title to that).
Do you get a different result?

Kai
--
Helpsites about Windows: http://www.mvps.org
IE repair script: http://iefaq.info

No, I get the "correct" result. But I don't think your link points to a popup
window with a set size, it's just a target=new, right? The windows that
receive a prepended URL seem to have a definite set size when I open them.

"Kai Schaetzl" wrote:

> Skribb schrieb am Thu, 23 Apr 2009 05:26:09 -0700:
>
> > I am not talking about the dropdown adress bar that is sometimes
> > added to popups, I am referring to when the page URL is prepended to the
> > actual page title (in the window's title bar).
>
> I already suspected that and was wondering ...
> I have to tell you that this does not happen unless the page doesn't have a
> title. Go to http://winware.org/en/linktest/linktest3.htm and click the
> third link (Open in new window). The new window should show "Untitled -
> Microsoft Windows Explorer" in the title bar, nothing else ("Untitled"
> because I set the title to that).
> Do you get a different result?
>
> Kai
> --
> Helpsites about Windows: http://www.mvps.org
> IE repair script: http://iefaq.info
>
>

Oh, listen to this nasty lil tidbit: I uninstalled IE7 and reverted back to
IE6. Turns out the popup URLs are still prepended to the title. What the
beep? My colleagues' computers have the same setup and hardware with IE6 and
do not exhibit this behaviour. This is ticking me off! Oh and thanks for your
help so far Kai

I will install IE7 again, just so you know (unless you know of a foolproof
way of removing the URL title in IE6 of course, hah).

"Kai Schaetzl" wrote:

> Skribb schrieb am Thu, 23 Apr 2009 05:26:09 -0700:
>
> > I am not talking about the dropdown adress bar that is sometimes
> > added to popups, I am referring to when the page URL is prepended to the
> > actual page title (in the window's title bar).
>
> I already suspected that and was wondering ...
> I have to tell you that this does not happen unless the page doesn't have a
> title. Go to http://winware.org/en/linktest/linktest3.htm and click the
> third link (Open in new window). The new window should show "Untitled -
> Microsoft Windows Explorer" in the title bar, nothing else ("Untitled"
> because I set the title to that).
> Do you get a different result?
>
> Kai
> --
> Helpsites about Windows: http://www.mvps.org
> IE repair script: http://iefaq.info
>
>

Skribb schrieb am Fri, 24 Apr 2009 02:46:01 -0700:

> The windows that
> receive a prepended URL seem to have a definite set size when I open them.

This shouldn't make any difference. Look in the source code for the title
tag, these pages should then have none or an empty one. If not, can you
provide a publically accessible example?

Kai
--
Helpsites about Windows: http://www.mvps.org
IE repair script: http://iefaq.info

Skribb schrieb am Fri, 24 Apr 2009 04:16:01 -0700:

> Turns out the popup URLs are still prepended to the title. What the
> beep?

Well, I would say that this is a reasonable way of increasing security, so
it may well be done by your security software or an add-on.

Kai
--
Helpsites about Windows: http://www.mvps.org
IE repair script: http://iefaq.info

You're probably on to something. I googled a bit and found info on Secunia
that it's a security feature of XP SP2. Still weird why I'm the only one who
seem to have it enabled. I'm gonna muck around with local policies and see
what I can do about it.

"Kai Schaetzl" wrote:

> Skribb schrieb am Fri, 24 Apr 2009 04:16:01 -0700:
>
> > Turns out the popup URLs are still prepended to the title. What the
> > beep?
>
> Well, I would say that this is a reasonable way of increasing security, so
> it may well be done by your security software or an add-on.
>
> Kai
> --
> Helpsites about Windows: http://www.mvps.org
> IE repair script: http://iefaq.info
>
>

"skribb" <skribb@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:E7218DEF-A84C-462D-9C8E-EC8474DC3172@microsoft.com...
> You're probably on to something. I googled a bit and found info on Secunia
> that it's a security feature of XP SP2. Still weird why I'm the only one
> who
> seem to have it enabled. I'm gonna muck around with local policies and see
> what I can do about it.

Tools/Internet Options/Security/Internet Zone/Custom Level...


Enable the option "Allow script-initiated windows without size or position
constraints".



Does that make a difference?

Good luck,

Donald Anadell



>
> "Kai Schaetzl" wrote:
>
>> Skribb schrieb am Fri, 24 Apr 2009 04:16:01 -0700:
>>
>> > Turns out the popup URLs are still prepended to the title. What the
>> > beep?
>>
>> Well, I would say that this is a reasonable way of increasing security,
>> so
>> it may well be done by your security software or an add-on.
>>
>> Kai
>> --
>> Helpsites about Windows: http://www.mvps.org
>> IE repair script: http://iefaq.info
>>
>>