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Old 03-20-2009
Asca
 

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2 major issues in RTM
I installed IE8 RTM in Windows Server 2008 Standard, and found these two
issues which were so annoying that they forced me to uninstall:

1: Pages opened in new window/tab refuse to open (they just say
'connecting...' and the URL remains the same as the parent page, but the page
never loads)
2: Windows Explorer opens folders in new windows even when folder options
tells it to open them in the same window.

Are these known issues or bugs?

Thanks!
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Old 03-20-2009
Don Varnau
 

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Re: 2 major issues in RTM
Hi,
These issues were probably caused by browser add-ons or other third-party
programs.

To troubleshoot:
1. Disable add-ons from IE> Tools> Manage add-ons until the troublesome
add-on is found.
2. Disable third-party programs which load at startup and run in the
background until the troublesome program is found.

Hope this helps,
Don
[MS MVP- IE]


"Asca" <Asca@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:38B9FE90-1C99-4080-AC3C-92F773477AE6@microsoft.com...
> I installed IE8 RTM in Windows Server 2008 Standard, and found these two
> issues which were so annoying that they forced me to uninstall:
>
> 1: Pages opened in new window/tab refuse to open (they just say
> 'connecting...' and the URL remains the same as the parent page, but the

page
> never loads)
> 2: Windows Explorer opens folders in new windows even when folder options
> tells it to open them in the same window.
>
> Are these known issues or bugs?
>
> Thanks!


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Old 03-20-2009
NickWin
 

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Re: 2 major issues in RTM
It isn't an issue with third-party add-ons. I just installed final version
of IE8 and am experiencing the following:

1. Open in New Tab fails - get a new tab that just says "Connecting..."
2. Open in New Window fails to open any new window, only a new iexplore.exe
process.
3. Recent Pages Drop-Down Button does not show recent pages when clicked
(nothing drops down).
4. After installation, Windows Explorer opens all folders in new windows
even though the option to open in same window is selected.
5. My DVD Drive is labelled as a CD Drive in Windows Explorer.
6. C:\ Drive no longer has flag icon in Windows Explorer.

FYI, I am using Vista Ultimate SP1. As I had same problems with IE8 RC1, I
did the following as a precaution prior to installing:
1. Uninstalled Flash, Shockwave, Java and Google Toolbar.
2. Disabled Skype and Google Desktop.
3. Used msconfig to boot in minimal diagnostic mode.
4. Ran IE8 without add-ons.
5. Reset all IE8 security and advanced settings to defaults.

Unfortunately these didn't resolve the issues.

Others have same problems:
http://www.neowin.net/forum/index.ph...ic=748876&st=0
http://www.msfn.org/board/index.php?showtopic=131307

"Don Varnau" wrote:

> Hi,
> These issues were probably caused by browser add-ons or other third-party
> programs.
>
> To troubleshoot:
> 1. Disable add-ons from IE> Tools> Manage add-ons until the troublesome
> add-on is found.
> 2. Disable third-party programs which load at startup and run in the
> background until the troublesome program is found.
>
> Hope this helps,
> Don
> [MS MVP- IE]
>
>
> "Asca" <Asca@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:38B9FE90-1C99-4080-AC3C-92F773477AE6@microsoft.com...
> > I installed IE8 RTM in Windows Server 2008 Standard, and found these two
> > issues which were so annoying that they forced me to uninstall:
> >
> > 1: Pages opened in new window/tab refuse to open (they just say
> > 'connecting...' and the URL remains the same as the parent page, but the

> page
> > never loads)
> > 2: Windows Explorer opens folders in new windows even when folder options
> > tells it to open them in the same window.
> >
> > Are these known issues or bugs?
> >
> > Thanks!

>
>

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Old 03-20-2009
Asca
 

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Re: 2 major issues in RTM
Indeed like NickWin said, this isn't an issue with add-ons as it is
reproducible in no add-on mode.

The tab/window loading problem gets fixed if protected mode is turned off
(but before the browser is restarted). I've since given up on trying to find
a solution for Windows Explorer opening new windows for every folder.

"Don Varnau" wrote:

> Hi,
> These issues were probably caused by browser add-ons or other third-party
> programs.
>
> To troubleshoot:
> 1. Disable add-ons from IE> Tools> Manage add-ons until the troublesome
> add-on is found.
> 2. Disable third-party programs which load at startup and run in the
> background until the troublesome program is found.
>
> Hope this helps,
> Don
> [MS MVP- IE]
>
>
> "Asca" <Asca@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:38B9FE90-1C99-4080-AC3C-92F773477AE6@microsoft.com...
> > I installed IE8 RTM in Windows Server 2008 Standard, and found these two
> > issues which were so annoying that they forced me to uninstall:
> >
> > 1: Pages opened in new window/tab refuse to open (they just say
> > 'connecting...' and the URL remains the same as the parent page, but the

> page
> > never loads)
> > 2: Windows Explorer opens folders in new windows even when folder options
> > tells it to open them in the same window.
> >
> > Are these known issues or bugs?
> >
> > Thanks!

>
>

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Old 03-20-2009
honzik
 

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Re: 2 major issues in RTM
Uninstalling Adobe Flash Player and Sun JRE solved new windows for every
folder in Win Explorer. I've just installed Flash Player and Java
runtime back and Win Explorer is working fine again.

Dne 20.3.2009 21:15, Asca napsal(a):
> Indeed like NickWin said, this isn't an issue with add-ons as it is
> reproducible in no add-on mode.
>
> The tab/window loading problem gets fixed if protected mode is turned off
> (but before the browser is restarted). I've since given up on trying to find
> a solution for Windows Explorer opening new windows for every folder.
>
> "Don Varnau" wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>> These issues were probably caused by browser add-ons or other third-party
>> programs.
>>
>> To troubleshoot:
>> 1. Disable add-ons from IE> Tools> Manage add-ons until the troublesome
>> add-on is found.
>> 2. Disable third-party programs which load at startup and run in the
>> background until the troublesome program is found.
>>
>> Hope this helps,
>> Don
>> [MS MVP- IE]
>>
>>
>> "Asca"<Asca@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> news:38B9FE90-1C99-4080-AC3C-92F773477AE6@microsoft.com...
>>> I installed IE8 RTM in Windows Server 2008 Standard, and found these two
>>> issues which were so annoying that they forced me to uninstall:
>>>
>>> 1: Pages opened in new window/tab refuse to open (they just say
>>> 'connecting...' and the URL remains the same as the parent page, but the

>> page
>>> never loads)
>>> 2: Windows Explorer opens folders in new windows even when folder options
>>> tells it to open them in the same window.
>>>
>>> Are these known issues or bugs?
>>>
>>> Thanks!

>>

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Old 03-21-2009
Asca
 

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Re: 2 major issues in RTM
I just tried reinstalling IE8 after uninstalling Flash and JRE.
Unfortunately I still got new windows for every folder after restarting.

"honzik" wrote:

> Uninstalling Adobe Flash Player and Sun JRE solved new windows for every
> folder in Win Explorer. I've just installed Flash Player and Java
> runtime back and Win Explorer is working fine again.
>
> Dne 20.3.2009 21:15, Asca napsal(a):
> > Indeed like NickWin said, this isn't an issue with add-ons as it is
> > reproducible in no add-on mode.
> >
> > The tab/window loading problem gets fixed if protected mode is turned off
> > (but before the browser is restarted). I've since given up on trying to find
> > a solution for Windows Explorer opening new windows for every folder.
> >
> > "Don Varnau" wrote:
> >
> >> Hi,
> >> These issues were probably caused by browser add-ons or other third-party
> >> programs.
> >>
> >> To troubleshoot:
> >> 1. Disable add-ons from IE> Tools> Manage add-ons until the troublesome
> >> add-on is found.
> >> 2. Disable third-party programs which load at startup and run in the
> >> background until the troublesome program is found.
> >>
> >> Hope this helps,
> >> Don
> >> [MS MVP- IE]
> >>
> >>
> >> "Asca"<Asca@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> >> news:38B9FE90-1C99-4080-AC3C-92F773477AE6@microsoft.com...
> >>> I installed IE8 RTM in Windows Server 2008 Standard, and found these two
> >>> issues which were so annoying that they forced me to uninstall:
> >>>
> >>> 1: Pages opened in new window/tab refuse to open (they just say
> >>> 'connecting...' and the URL remains the same as the parent page, but the
> >> page
> >>> never loads)
> >>> 2: Windows Explorer opens folders in new windows even when folder options
> >>> tells it to open them in the same window.
> >>>
> >>> Are these known issues or bugs?
> >>>
> >>> Thanks!
> >>

>

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Old 03-21-2009
Don Varnau
 

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Re: 2 major issues in RTM
Do the problems persist if you startup in Safe Mode with Networking?

> > 2. Disable third-party programs which load at startup and run in the
> > background until the troublesome program is found.


What's in the Systray/Notification Area? What applications/processes are
running in Task Manager? Third-party mouse software? Security/antivirus?

Don
[MS MVP- IE]

"NickWin" <NickWin@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:6513D709-D906-43D3-88D2-5C2A59CE6C32@microsoft.com...
> It isn't an issue with third-party add-ons. I just installed final

version
> of IE8 and am experiencing the following:
>
> 1. Open in New Tab fails - get a new tab that just says "Connecting..."
> 2. Open in New Window fails to open any new window, only a new

iexplore.exe
> process.
> 3. Recent Pages Drop-Down Button does not show recent pages when clicked
> (nothing drops down).
> 4. After installation, Windows Explorer opens all folders in new windows
> even though the option to open in same window is selected.
> 5. My DVD Drive is labelled as a CD Drive in Windows Explorer.
> 6. C:\ Drive no longer has flag icon in Windows Explorer.
>
> FYI, I am using Vista Ultimate SP1. As I had same problems with IE8 RC1, I
> did the following as a precaution prior to installing:
> 1. Uninstalled Flash, Shockwave, Java and Google Toolbar.
> 2. Disabled Skype and Google Desktop.
> 3. Used msconfig to boot in minimal diagnostic mode.
> 4. Ran IE8 without add-ons.
> 5. Reset all IE8 security and advanced settings to defaults.
>
> Unfortunately these didn't resolve the issues.
>
> Others have same problems:
> http://www.neowin.net/forum/index.ph...ic=748876&st=0
> http://www.msfn.org/board/index.php?showtopic=131307


> "Don Varnau" wrote:
>
> > Hi,
> > These issues were probably caused by browser add-ons or other

third-party
> > programs.
> >
> > To troubleshoot:
> > 1. Disable add-ons from IE> Tools> Manage add-ons until the troublesome
> > add-on is found.
> > 2. Disable third-party programs which load at startup and run in the
> > background until the troublesome program is found.


> > "Asca" <Asca@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> > news:38B9FE90-1C99-4080-AC3C-92F773477AE6@microsoft.com...
> > > I installed IE8 RTM in Windows Server 2008 Standard, and found these

two
> > > issues which were so annoying that they forced me to uninstall:
> > >
> > > 1: Pages opened in new window/tab refuse to open (they just say
> > > 'connecting...' and the URL remains the same as the parent page, but

the
> > page
> > > never loads)
> > > 2: Windows Explorer opens folders in new windows even when folder

options
> > > tells it to open them in the same window.
> > >
> > > Are these known issues or bugs?
> > >
> > > Thanks!


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Old 03-21-2009
Don Varnau
 

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Re: 2 major issues in RTM
Hi,

> The tab/window loading problem gets fixed if protected mode is turned off


That could be pointing to a third-party program as the cause of these
issues.

Do the problems persist if you startup in Safe Mode with Networking?

> > 2. Disable third-party programs which load at startup and run in the
> > background until the troublesome program is found.


What's in the Systray/Notification Area? What applications/processes are
running in Task Manager? Third-party mouse software? Security/antivirus?

Don
[MS MVP- IE]


"Asca" <Asca@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:1F76B069-F943-4E1F-AF5A-6B9C9F3D1BF9@microsoft.com...
> Indeed like NickWin said, this isn't an issue with add-ons as it is
> reproducible in no add-on mode.
>
> The tab/window loading problem gets fixed if protected mode is turned off
> (but before the browser is restarted). I've since given up on trying to

find
> a solution for Windows Explorer opening new windows for every folder.


> "Don Varnau" wrote:
> > Hi,
> > These issues were probably caused by browser add-ons or other

third-party
> > programs.
> >
> > To troubleshoot:
> > 1. Disable add-ons from IE> Tools> Manage add-ons until the troublesome
> > add-on is found.
> > 2. Disable third-party programs which load at startup and run in the
> > background until the troublesome program is found.


> > "Asca" <Asca@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> > news:38B9FE90-1C99-4080-AC3C-92F773477AE6@microsoft.com...
> > > I installed IE8 RTM in Windows Server 2008 Standard, and found these

two
> > > issues which were so annoying that they forced me to uninstall:
> > >
> > > 1: Pages opened in new window/tab refuse to open (they just say
> > > 'connecting...' and the URL remains the same as the parent page, but

the
> > page never loads)
> > > 2: Windows Explorer opens folders in new windows even when folder

options
> > > tells it to open them in the same window.
> > >
> > > Are these known issues or bugs?
> > >
> > > Thanks!


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Old 03-21-2009
Roger Wolfson
 

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Re: 2 major issues in RTM
Hi Don,

I have the tab/window-loading problem too, and turning off protected mode
does not fix it.
I'm currently in Safe Mode with Networking, running no-addons mode,
non-Protected mode, and the problem still appears. There is nothing else
running right now other than the base OS stuff you'd expect in safe mode.
(no A/V, custom mouse software, etc.) After several minutes using sites that
are affected, the system starts having problems because of all the stalled
windowless IE processes running (which persist even after closing all IE
windows; they have to be killed in task manager).

I've uninstalled Flash (and I don't have JRE) but I still have the
multiple-Explorer window problem too.

A third problem I haven't seen mentioned here is that the navigation
dropdown next to the back/forward buttons does not function. The button
seems active, but there's no drop-down when I click it.

This is Vista SP1 32-bit.

"Don Varnau" <don_04[at]varnau[dot]org> wrote in message
news:OhzkbvhqJHA.6116@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
> Hi,
>
>> The tab/window loading problem gets fixed if protected mode is turned off

>
> That could be pointing to a third-party program as the cause of these
> issues.
>
> Do the problems persist if you startup in Safe Mode with Networking?
>
>> > 2. Disable third-party programs which load at startup and run in the
>> > background until the troublesome program is found.

>
> What's in the Systray/Notification Area? What applications/processes are
> running in Task Manager? Third-party mouse software? Security/antivirus?
>
> Don
> [MS MVP- IE]
>
>
> "Asca" <Asca@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:1F76B069-F943-4E1F-AF5A-6B9C9F3D1BF9@microsoft.com...
>> Indeed like NickWin said, this isn't an issue with add-ons as it is
>> reproducible in no add-on mode.
>>
>> The tab/window loading problem gets fixed if protected mode is turned off
>> (but before the browser is restarted). I've since given up on trying to

> find
>> a solution for Windows Explorer opening new windows for every folder.

>
>> "Don Varnau" wrote:
>> > Hi,
>> > These issues were probably caused by browser add-ons or other

> third-party
>> > programs.
>> >
>> > To troubleshoot:
>> > 1. Disable add-ons from IE> Tools> Manage add-ons until the troublesome
>> > add-on is found.
>> > 2. Disable third-party programs which load at startup and run in the
>> > background until the troublesome program is found.

>
>> > "Asca" <Asca@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> > news:38B9FE90-1C99-4080-AC3C-92F773477AE6@microsoft.com...
>> > > I installed IE8 RTM in Windows Server 2008 Standard, and found these

> two
>> > > issues which were so annoying that they forced me to uninstall:
>> > >
>> > > 1: Pages opened in new window/tab refuse to open (they just say
>> > > 'connecting...' and the URL remains the same as the parent page, but

> the
>> > page never loads)
>> > > 2: Windows Explorer opens folders in new windows even when folder

> options
>> > > tells it to open them in the same window.
>> > >
>> > > Are these known issues or bugs?
>> > >
>> > > Thanks!

>


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Old 03-22-2009
Yves
 

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Re: 2 major issues in RTM
On 21 mrt, 22:09, "Roger Wolfson" <rogerw7...@earthlink.net> wrote:
> Hi Don,
>
> I have thetab/window-loading problem too, and turning off protected mode
> does not fix it.
> I'm currently in Safe Mode with Networking, running no-addons mode,
> non-Protected mode, and the problem still appears. There is nothing else
> running right now other than the base OS stuff you'd expect in safe mode.
> (no A/V, custom mouse software, etc.) After several minutes using sites that
> are affected, the system starts having problems because of all the stalled
> windowless IE processes running (which persist even after closing all IE
> windows; they have to be killed in task manager).
>
> I've uninstalled Flash (and I don't have JRE) but I still have the
> multiple-Explorer window problem too.
>
> A third problem I haven't seen mentioned here is that the navigation
> dropdown next to the back/forward buttons does not function. The button
> seems active, but there's no drop-down when I click it.
>
> This is Vista SP1 32-bit.
>
> "Don Varnau" <don_04[at]varnau[dot]org> wrote in message
>
> news:OhzkbvhqJHA.6116@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>
>
>
> > Hi,

>
> >> Thetab/window loading problem gets fixed if protected mode is turned off

>
> > That could be pointing to a third-party program as the cause of these
> > issues.

>
> > Do the problems persist if you startup in Safe Mode with Networking?

>
> >> > 2. Disable third-party programs which load at startup and run in the
> >> > background until the troublesome program is found.

>
> > What's in the Systray/Notification Area? What applications/processes are
> > running in Task Manager? Third-party mouse software? Security/antivirus?

>
> > Don
> > [MS MVP- IE]

>
> > "Asca" <A...@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> >news:1F76B069-F943-4E1F-AF5A-6B9C9F3D1BF9@microsoft.com...
> >> Indeed like NickWin said, this isn't an issue with add-ons as it is
> >> reproducible in no add-on mode.

>
> >> Thetab/window loading problem gets fixed if protected mode is turned off
> >> (but before the browser is restarted). *I've since given up on trying to

> > find
> >> a solution for Windows Explorer openingnewwindows for every folder.

>
> >> "Don Varnau" wrote:
> >> > Hi,
> >> > These issues were probably caused by browser add-ons or other

> > third-party
> >> > programs.

>
> >> > To troubleshoot:
> >> > 1. Disable add-ons from IE> Tools> Manage add-ons until the troublesome
> >> > add-on is found.
> >> > 2. Disable third-party programs which load at startup and run in the
> >> > background until the troublesome program is found.

>
> >> > "Asca" <A...@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> >> >news:38B9FE90-1C99-4080-AC3C-92F773477AE6@microsoft.com...
> >> > > I installed IE8 RTM in Windows Server 2008 Standard, and found these

> > two
> >> > > issues which were so annoying that they forced me to uninstall:

>
> >> > > 1: Pages opened innewwindow/tabrefuse toopen(they just say
> >> > > 'connecting...' and the URL remains the same as the parent page, but

> > the
> >> > page never loads)
> >> > > 2: Windows Explorer opens folders innewwindows even when folder

> > options
> >> > > tells it toopenthem in the same window.

>
> >> > > Are these known issues or bugs?

>
> >> > > Thanks!


Not really much I can add to the discussion apart from having all the
same problems described in above posts.

I tried disabling Quick Tabs but that has no effect. Same goes for
Accelerators. I also disabled all add-ons without any luck.

I'm normally running F-Secure, but even with it disabled (or in safe
mode) the issue remains.

Yves

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