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IE has slowed to pre-98SE levels in XP Pro. HELP!

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Old 09-02-2008
Robert
 

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IE has slowed to pre-98SE levels in XP Pro. HELP!
I am using IE7.0.5730.13 in XP Pro sp3. It takes forever "connecting" to my
homepage (about:blank). New tabs open slower than a snails pace. Things
were faster in 98SE. Hyjackthis!, Ad-Aware, Spybot S&D, Avast and Norton
IS2008 all say the system is clean. I have reset all my advanced internet
options to their defaults. I have Uninstalled IE 7 (7.0.5730.13), rebooted
to use IE6, and then reinstalled IE7. IE7 w/o add-ons runs just as slow
("C:\Program Files\Internet Explorer\iexplore.exe" -extoff) as it does with
add-ons (which are few).
Granted whenever the system bogs down I expect IE to slow up. For example,
when the LAN slows... IE should too. But my other PC's on my LAN all run IE
faster than this one and this one has one of the fastest processors with the
most memory etc. etc. on the LAN. [Dual Intel 3.4GHz, 333MHz 2Gb RAM, XP
sp3, Dell XPS Gen1)
Any Ideas on where to start????????????????????? This has been going on for
several months with me trying my own fixes, all to no avail. I was thinking
some piece of software was calling home too much (like Norton, Adobe, Java
or Microsoft's Genuine Advantage) and sucking up bandwidth. Process
Monitor.exe shows that doesn't look like the case. [Although removing
Adobe's Updater5 really sped my video playback up to previous levels.] Once
the HD access slows after initial start up, it'll usually work great for
30-60 min, then boom... the slugs slime into it.
ALL HELP IS GREATLY APPRECIATED!! What am I missing???


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Old 09-03-2008
rob^_^
 

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Re: IE has slowed to pre-98SE levels in XP Pro. HELP!
Hi Robert,

Look in your Windows startup (msconfig.msc) to see if you have the
GoogleToolbarNotifier.exe and disable it in the startup list.

Please post back if this works.

Otherwise you could use the Fiddler tool (www.fiddlertool.com) to look at
you traffic and identify which processes are accessing the internet when you
start IE. Also TaskManager sorted by CPU usage should give you some idea
about which processes are also started along with IE when it is started.

Regards.

"Robert" <remdds@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
news:lgjvk.20918$kh2.14561@bignews3.bellsouth.net. ..
> I am using IE7.0.5730.13 in XP Pro sp3. It takes forever "connecting" to
> my homepage (about:blank). New tabs open slower than a snails pace.
> Things were faster in 98SE. Hyjackthis!, Ad-Aware, Spybot S&D, Avast and
> Norton IS2008 all say the system is clean. I have reset all my advanced
> internet options to their defaults. I have Uninstalled IE 7
> (7.0.5730.13), rebooted to use IE6, and then reinstalled IE7. IE7 w/o
> add-ons runs just as slow ("C:\Program Files\Internet
> Explorer\iexplore.exe" -extoff) as it does with add-ons (which are few).
> Granted whenever the system bogs down I expect IE to slow up. For
> example, when the LAN slows... IE should too. But my other PC's on my LAN
> all run IE faster than this one and this one has one of the fastest
> processors with the most memory etc. etc. on the LAN. [Dual Intel
> 3.4GHz, 333MHz 2Gb RAM, XP sp3, Dell XPS Gen1)
> Any Ideas on where to start????????????????????? This has been going on
> for several months with me trying my own fixes, all to no avail. I was
> thinking some piece of software was calling home too much (like Norton,
> Adobe, Java or Microsoft's Genuine Advantage) and sucking up bandwidth.
> Process Monitor.exe shows that doesn't look like the case. [Although
> removing Adobe's Updater5 really sped my video playback up to previous
> levels.] Once the HD access slows after initial start up, it'll usually
> work great for 30-60 min, then boom... the slugs slime into it.
> ALL HELP IS GREATLY APPRECIATED!! What am I missing???
>

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Old 09-03-2008
Peter Foldes
 

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Re: IE has slowed to pre-98SE levels in XP Pro. HELP!
Avast and Norton both installed ?????

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"Robert" <remdds@bellsouth.net> wrote in message news:lgjvk.20918$kh2.14561@bignews3.bellsouth.net. ..
>I am using IE7.0.5730.13 in XP Pro sp3. It takes forever "connecting" to my
> homepage (about:blank). New tabs open slower than a snails pace. Things
> were faster in 98SE. Hyjackthis!, Ad-Aware, Spybot S&D, Avast and Norton
> IS2008 all say the system is clean. I have reset all my advanced internet
> options to their defaults. I have Uninstalled IE 7 (7.0.5730.13), rebooted
> to use IE6, and then reinstalled IE7. IE7 w/o add-ons runs just as slow
> ("C:\Program Files\Internet Explorer\iexplore.exe" -extoff) as it does with
> add-ons (which are few).
> Granted whenever the system bogs down I expect IE to slow up. For example,
> when the LAN slows... IE should too. But my other PC's on my LAN all run IE
> faster than this one and this one has one of the fastest processors with the
> most memory etc. etc. on the LAN. [Dual Intel 3.4GHz, 333MHz 2Gb RAM, XP
> sp3, Dell XPS Gen1)
> Any Ideas on where to start????????????????????? This has been going on for
> several months with me trying my own fixes, all to no avail. I was thinking
> some piece of software was calling home too much (like Norton, Adobe, Java
> or Microsoft's Genuine Advantage) and sucking up bandwidth. Process
> Monitor.exe shows that doesn't look like the case. [Although removing
> Adobe's Updater5 really sped my video playback up to previous levels.] Once
> the HD access slows after initial start up, it'll usually work great for
> 30-60 min, then boom... the slugs slime into it.
> ALL HELP IS GREATLY APPRECIATED!! What am I missing???
>
>

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Old 09-03-2008
Robert
 

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Re: IE has slowed to pre-98SE levels in XP Pro. HELP!
No GoogleToolbarNotifier installed. MANY thanks for your prompt response!

I will post back after I check on the fiddlertool. Thanks again!!!

PS ProcMon.exe list a lot of the following even with "nothing" running:

Explorer.exe

65187 6:16:15.7299017 PM Explorer.EXE 132 RegQueryValue
HKLM\System\CurrentControlSet\Services\Tcpip\Linka ge\Bind BUFFER OVERFLOW
Length: 144
65188 6:16:15.7300918 PM Explorer.EXE 132 RegQueryValue
HKLM\System\CurrentControlSet\Services\Tcpip\Linka ge\Bind BUFFER OVERFLOW
Length: 144
65189 6:16:15.7302487 PM Explorer.EXE 132 RegQueryValue
HKLM\System\CurrentControlSet\Services\Tcpip\Linka ge\Bind SUCCESS Type:
REG_MULTI_SZ, Length: 508, Data:
\Device\{DD3D5EAB-8331-4428-867B-E9D1B60044CA},
\Device\{19ED3542-9C12-4C43-9613-C6600F0A541F},
\Device\{9F892320-BA44-4565-8707-10E2AC02C42D},
\Device\{EF681F52-B767-4A95-8A6F-AE320096A334},
\Device\{F1BA6338-C9E3-43B5-8847-36EE37C9852A}, \Device\NdisWanIp
65195 6:16:15.7344418 PM Explorer.EXE 132 RegOpenKey
HKLM\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Services\Tcpip\Param eters\Interfaces\{19ED3542-9C12-4C43-9613-C6600F0A541F}
SUCCESS Desired Access: Read
65196 6:16:15.7350143 PM Explorer.EXE 132 RegQueryValue
HKLM\System\CurrentControlSet\Services\Tcpip\Param eters\Interfaces\{19ED3542-9C12-4C43-9613-C6600F0A541F}\EnableDHCP
SUCCESS Type: REG_DWORD, Length: 4, Data: 1
65197 6:16:15.7352068 PM Explorer.EXE 132 RegQueryValue
HKLM\System\CurrentControlSet\Services\Tcpip\Param eters\Interfaces\{19ED3542-9C12-4C43-9613-C6600F0A541F}\LeaseObtainedTime
SUCCESS Type: REG_DWORD, Length: 4, Data: 1220363458
65198 6:16:15.7354276 PM Explorer.EXE 132 RegQueryValue
HKLM\System\CurrentControlSet\Services\Tcpip\Param eters\Interfaces\{19ED3542-9C12-4C43-9613-C6600F0A541F}\LeaseTerminatesTime
SUCCESS Type: REG_DWORD, Length: 4, Data: 1220449858
65199 6:16:15.7355878 PM Explorer.EXE 132 RegQueryValue
HKLM\System\CurrentControlSet\Services\Tcpip\Param eters\Interfaces\{19ED3542-9C12-4C43-9613-C6600F0A541F}\DhcpServer
SUCCESS Type: REG_SZ, Length: 24, Data: 192.168.1.1
65200 6:16:15.7358081 PM Explorer.EXE 132 RegQueryValue
HKLM\System\CurrentControlSet\Services\Tcpip\Param eters\Interfaces\{19ED3542-9C12-4C43-9613-C6600F0A541F}\DhcpServer
SUCCESS Type: REG_SZ, Length: 24, Data: 192.168.1.1
65201 6:16:15.7361248 PM Explorer.EXE 132 RegCloseKey
HKLM\System\CurrentControlSet\Services\Tcpip\Param eters\Interfaces\{19ED3542-9C12-4C43-9613-C6600F0A541F}
SUCCESS

& Norton's ccSvcHst.exe

54968 6:15:24.4834480 PM ccSvcHst.exe 588 RegQueryValue
HKLM\System\CurrentControlSet\Services\Tcpip\Linka ge\Bind BUFFER OVERFLOW
Length: 144
54969 6:15:24.4836054 PM ccSvcHst.exe 588 RegQueryValue
HKLM\System\CurrentControlSet\Services\Tcpip\Linka ge\Bind BUFFER OVERFLOW
Length: 144
54970 6:15:24.4837320 PM ccSvcHst.exe 588 RegQueryValue
HKLM\System\CurrentControlSet\Services\Tcpip\Linka ge\Bind SUCCESS Type:
REG_MULTI_SZ, Length: 508, Data:
\Device\{DD3D5EAB-8331-4428-867B-E9D1B60044CA},
\Device\{19ED3542-9C12-4C43-9613-C6600F0A541F},
\Device\{9F892320-BA44-4565-8707-10E2AC02C42D},
\Device\{EF681F52-B767-4A95-8A6F-AE320096A334},
\Device\{F1BA6338-C9E3-43B5-8847-36EE37C9852A}, \Device\NdisWanIp
54977 6:15:24.4874457 PM ccSvcHst.exe 588 RegOpenKey
HKLM\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Services\Tcpip\Param eters\Interfaces\{19ED3542-9C12-4C43-9613-C6600F0A541F}
SUCCESS Desired Access: Read
54978 6:15:24.4879525 PM ccSvcHst.exe 588 RegQueryValue
HKLM\System\CurrentControlSet\Services\Tcpip\Param eters\Interfaces\{19ED3542-9C12-4C43-9613-C6600F0A541F}\EnableDHCP
SUCCESS Type: REG_DWORD, Length: 4, Data: 1
54979 6:15:24.4885548 PM ccSvcHst.exe 588 RegQueryValue
HKLM\System\CurrentControlSet\Services\Tcpip\Param eters\Interfaces\{19ED3542-9C12-4C43-9613-C6600F0A541F}\LeaseObtainedTime
SUCCESS Type: REG_DWORD, Length: 4, Data: 1220363458
54980 6:15:24.4887467 PM ccSvcHst.exe 588 RegQueryValue
HKLM\System\CurrentControlSet\Services\Tcpip\Param eters\Interfaces\{19ED3542-9C12-4C43-9613-C6600F0A541F}\LeaseTerminatesTime
SUCCESS Type: REG_DWORD, Length: 4, Data: 1220449858
54981 6:15:24.4889067 PM ccSvcHst.exe 588 RegQueryValue
HKLM\System\CurrentControlSet\Services\Tcpip\Param eters\Interfaces\{19ED3542-9C12-4C43-9613-C6600F0A541F}\DhcpServer
SUCCESS Type: REG_SZ, Length: 24, Data: 192.168.1.1
54982 6:15:24.4890935 PM ccSvcHst.exe 588 RegQueryValue
HKLM\System\CurrentControlSet\Services\Tcpip\Param eters\Interfaces\{19ED3542-9C12-4C43-9613-C6600F0A541F}\DhcpServer
SUCCESS Type: REG_SZ, Length: 24, Data: 192.168.1.1
54983 6:15:24.4893798 PM ccSvcHst.exe 588 RegCloseKey
HKLM\System\CurrentControlSet\Services\Tcpip\Param eters\Interfaces\{19ED3542-9C12-4C43-9613-C6600F0A541F}
SUCCESS
54984 6:15:24.4899872 PM ccSvcHst.exe 588 RegOpenKey
HKLM\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Services\Tcpip\Param eters\Interfaces\{F1BA6338-C9E3-43B5-8847-36EE37C9852A}
SUCCESS Desired Access: Read
54985 6:15:24.4914166 PM ccSvcHst.exe 588 RegQueryValue
HKLM\System\CurrentControlSet\Services\Tcpip\Param eters\Interfaces\{F1BA6338-C9E3-43B5-8847-36EE37C9852A}\EnableDHCP
SUCCESS Type: REG_DWORD, Length: 4, Data: 1
54986 6:15:24.4915757 PM ccSvcHst.exe 588 RegQueryValue
HKLM\System\CurrentControlSet\Services\Tcpip\Param eters\Interfaces\{F1BA6338-C9E3-43B5-8847-36EE37C9852A}\LeaseObtainedTime
SUCCESS Type: REG_DWORD, Length: 4, Data: 1145236235
54987 6:15:24.4917964 PM ccSvcHst.exe 588 RegQueryValue
HKLM\System\CurrentControlSet\Services\Tcpip\Param eters\Interfaces\{F1BA6338-C9E3-43B5-8847-36EE37C9852A}\LeaseTerminatesTime
SUCCESS Type: REG_DWORD, Length: 4, Data: 2147483647
54988 6:15:24.4920169 PM ccSvcHst.exe 588 RegQueryValue
HKLM\System\CurrentControlSet\Services\Tcpip\Param eters\Interfaces\{F1BA6338-C9E3-43B5-8847-36EE37C9852A}\DhcpServer
SUCCESS Type: REG_SZ, Length: 32, Data: 255.255.255.255
54989 6:15:24.4922066 PM ccSvcHst.exe 588 RegQueryValue
HKLM\System\CurrentControlSet\Services\Tcpip\Param eters\Interfaces\{F1BA6338-C9E3-43B5-8847-36EE37C9852A}\DhcpServer
SUCCESS Type: REG_SZ, Length: 32, Data: 255.255.255.255
54990 6:15:24.4924670 PM ccSvcHst.exe 588 RegCloseKey
HKLM\System\CurrentControlSet\Services\Tcpip\Param eters\Interfaces\{F1BA6338-C9E3-43B5-8847-36EE37C9852A}
SUCCESS

I know these programs need this info but 3-5 times per second??????






"rob^_^" <iecustomizer@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:358E1955-27AB-4328-A18F-49C6DCCF4660@microsoft.com...
> Hi Robert,
>
> Look in your Windows startup (msconfig.msc) to see if you have the
> GoogleToolbarNotifier.exe and disable it in the startup list.
>
> Please post back if this works.
>
> Otherwise you could use the Fiddler tool (www.fiddlertool.com) to look at
> you traffic and identify which processes are accessing the internet when
> you start IE. Also TaskManager sorted by CPU usage should give you some
> idea about which processes are also started along with IE when it is
> started.
>
> Regards.
>
> "Robert" <remdds@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
> news:lgjvk.20918$kh2.14561@bignews3.bellsouth.net. ..
>> I am using IE7.0.5730.13 in XP Pro sp3. It takes forever "connecting" to
>> my homepage (about:blank). New tabs open slower than a snails pace.
>> Things were faster in 98SE. Hyjackthis!, Ad-Aware, Spybot S&D, Avast and
>> Norton IS2008 all say the system is clean. I have reset all my advanced
>> internet options to their defaults. I have Uninstalled IE 7
>> (7.0.5730.13), rebooted to use IE6, and then reinstalled IE7. IE7 w/o
>> add-ons runs just as slow ("C:\Program Files\Internet
>> Explorer\iexplore.exe" -extoff) as it does with add-ons (which are few).
>> Granted whenever the system bogs down I expect IE to slow up. For
>> example, when the LAN slows... IE should too. But my other PC's on my
>> LAN all run IE faster than this one and this one has one of the fastest
>> processors with the most memory etc. etc. on the LAN. [Dual Intel
>> 3.4GHz, 333MHz 2Gb RAM, XP sp3, Dell XPS Gen1)
>> Any Ideas on where to start????????????????????? This has been going on
>> for several months with me trying my own fixes, all to no avail. I was
>> thinking some piece of software was calling home too much (like Norton,
>> Adobe, Java or Microsoft's Genuine Advantage) and sucking up bandwidth.
>> Process Monitor.exe shows that doesn't look like the case. [Although
>> removing Adobe's Updater5 really sped my video playback up to previous
>> levels.] Once the HD access slows after initial start up, it'll usually
>> work great for 30-60 min, then boom... the slugs slime into it.
>> ALL HELP IS GREATLY APPRECIATED!! What am I missing???
>>



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Old 09-03-2008
Robert
 

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Re: IE has slowed to pre-98SE levels in XP Pro. HELP!
No. NIS 2008 is installed. I ran Avast from a CD, along with a few of
those online virus scanners. I was just trying to illustrate that the
machine is clean. The FIRST thing everyone says when it comes to a machine
slowdown is "Malware!!!"


"Peter Foldes" <okf22@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:eA6n99VDJHA.4824@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
Avast and Norton both installed ?????

--
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"Robert" <remdds@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
news:lgjvk.20918$kh2.14561@bignews3.bellsouth.net. ..
>I am using IE7.0.5730.13 in XP Pro sp3. It takes forever "connecting" to
>my
> homepage (about:blank). New tabs open slower than a snails pace. Things
> were faster in 98SE. Hyjackthis!, Ad-Aware, Spybot S&D, Avast and Norton
> IS2008 all say the system is clean. I have reset all my advanced internet
> options to their defaults. I have Uninstalled IE 7 (7.0.5730.13),
> rebooted
> to use IE6, and then reinstalled IE7. IE7 w/o add-ons runs just as slow
> ("C:\Program Files\Internet Explorer\iexplore.exe" -extoff) as it does
> with
> add-ons (which are few).
> Granted whenever the system bogs down I expect IE to slow up. For
> example,
> when the LAN slows... IE should too. But my other PC's on my LAN all run
> IE
> faster than this one and this one has one of the fastest processors with
> the
> most memory etc. etc. on the LAN. [Dual Intel 3.4GHz, 333MHz 2Gb RAM, XP
> sp3, Dell XPS Gen1)
> Any Ideas on where to start????????????????????? This has been going on
> for
> several months with me trying my own fixes, all to no avail. I was
> thinking
> some piece of software was calling home too much (like Norton, Adobe, Java
> or Microsoft's Genuine Advantage) and sucking up bandwidth. Process
> Monitor.exe shows that doesn't look like the case. [Although removing
> Adobe's Updater5 really sped my video playback up to previous levels.]
> Once
> the HD access slows after initial start up, it'll usually work great for
> 30-60 min, then boom... the slugs slime into it.
> ALL HELP IS GREATLY APPRECIATED!! What am I missing???
>
>



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Old 09-03-2008
Robert
 

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Re: IE has slowed to pre-98SE levels in XP Pro. HELP!
Fiddler 2 only works with .Net framework 2 or above. I only have 1.1 w/
hotfix installed. Do I really need to upgrade???
I downloaded Fiddler 1.3.

"rob^_^" <iecustomizer@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:358E1955-27AB-4328-A18F-49C6DCCF4660@microsoft.com...
> Hi Robert,
>
> Look in your Windows startup (msconfig.msc) to see if you have the
> GoogleToolbarNotifier.exe and disable it in the startup list.
>
> Please post back if this works.
>
> Otherwise you could use the Fiddler tool (www.fiddlertool.com) to look at
> you traffic and identify which processes are accessing the internet when
> you start IE. Also TaskManager sorted by CPU usage should give you some
> idea about which processes are also started along with IE when it is
> started.
>
> Regards.
>
> "Robert" <remdds@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
> news:lgjvk.20918$kh2.14561@bignews3.bellsouth.net. ..
>> I am using IE7.0.5730.13 in XP Pro sp3. It takes forever "connecting" to
>> my homepage (about:blank). New tabs open slower than a snails pace.
>> Things were faster in 98SE. Hyjackthis!, Ad-Aware, Spybot S&D, Avast and
>> Norton IS2008 all say the system is clean. I have reset all my advanced
>> internet options to their defaults. I have Uninstalled IE 7
>> (7.0.5730.13), rebooted to use IE6, and then reinstalled IE7. IE7 w/o
>> add-ons runs just as slow ("C:\Program Files\Internet
>> Explorer\iexplore.exe" -extoff) as it does with add-ons (which are few).
>> Granted whenever the system bogs down I expect IE to slow up. For
>> example, when the LAN slows... IE should too. But my other PC's on my
>> LAN all run IE faster than this one and this one has one of the fastest
>> processors with the most memory etc. etc. on the LAN. [Dual Intel
>> 3.4GHz, 333MHz 2Gb RAM, XP sp3, Dell XPS Gen1)
>> Any Ideas on where to start????????????????????? This has been going on
>> for several months with me trying my own fixes, all to no avail. I was
>> thinking some piece of software was calling home too much (like Norton,
>> Adobe, Java or Microsoft's Genuine Advantage) and sucking up bandwidth.
>> Process Monitor.exe shows that doesn't look like the case. [Although
>> removing Adobe's Updater5 really sped my video playback up to previous
>> levels.] Once the HD access slows after initial start up, it'll usually
>> work great for 30-60 min, then boom... the slugs slime into it.
>> ALL HELP IS GREATLY APPRECIATED!! What am I missing???
>>



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Old 09-03-2008
PA Bear [MS MVP]
 

Posts: n/a
Re: IE has slowed to pre-98SE levels in XP Pro. HELP!
Was NIS running when you installed/uninstalled/reinstalled IE7? ...when you
installed WinXP SP3? Which was installed first, IE7 or WinXP SP3?

Does this behavior persist if you (1) disable the Norton firewall and then
(2) enable the Windows Firewall?

>> Hyjackthis!, Ad-Aware, Spybot S&D, Avast and Norton
>> IS2008 all say the system is clean.


That does NOT necessarily mean the machine is clean, Robert.

PS: HijackThis doesn't fix anything.
--
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MS MVP-IE, Mail, Security, Windows Desktop Experience - since 2002
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Robert wrote:
> No. NIS 2008 is installed. I ran Avast from a CD, along with a few of
> those online virus scanners. I was just trying to illustrate that the
> machine is clean. The FIRST thing everyone says when it comes to a
> machine
> slowdown is "Malware!!!"
>
>
> "Peter Foldes" <okf22@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:eA6n99VDJHA.4824@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
> Avast and Norton both installed ?????
>
>
> "Robert" <remdds@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
> news:lgjvk.20918$kh2.14561@bignews3.bellsouth.net. ..
>> I am using IE7.0.5730.13 in XP Pro sp3. It takes forever "connecting" to
>> my
>> homepage (about:blank). New tabs open slower than a snails pace. Things
>> were faster in 98SE. Hyjackthis!, Ad-Aware, Spybot S&D, Avast and Norton
>> IS2008 all say the system is clean. I have reset all my advanced
>> internet
>> options to their defaults. I have Uninstalled IE 7 (7.0.5730.13),
>> rebooted
>> to use IE6, and then reinstalled IE7. IE7 w/o add-ons runs just as slow
>> ("C:\Program Files\Internet Explorer\iexplore.exe" -extoff) as it does
>> with
>> add-ons (which are few).
>> Granted whenever the system bogs down I expect IE to slow up. For
>> example,
>> when the LAN slows... IE should too. But my other PC's on my LAN all run
>> IE
>> faster than this one and this one has one of the fastest processors with
>> the
>> most memory etc. etc. on the LAN. [Dual Intel 3.4GHz, 333MHz 2Gb RAM,
>> XP
>> sp3, Dell XPS Gen1)
>> Any Ideas on where to start????????????????????? This has been going on
>> for
>> several months with me trying my own fixes, all to no avail. I was
>> thinking
>> some piece of software was calling home too much (like Norton, Adobe,
>> Java
>> or Microsoft's Genuine Advantage) and sucking up bandwidth. Process
>> Monitor.exe shows that doesn't look like the case. [Although removing
>> Adobe's Updater5 really sped my video playback up to previous levels.]
>> Once
>> the HD access slows after initial start up, it'll usually work great for
>> 30-60 min, then boom... the slugs slime into it.
>> ALL HELP IS GREATLY APPRECIATED!! What am I missing???


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Old 09-03-2008
Robert
 

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Re: IE has slowed to pre-98SE levels in XP Pro. HELP!
Was NIS running when you installed/uninstalled/reinstalled IE7? ...when you
> installed WinXP SP3?

NIS was installed but turned off on the reinstall of IE7 (though not
during the initial install... which worked). NIS was off during sp3 install

Which was installed first, IE7 or WinXP SP3?
IE7 was installed months b4 sp3. This problem was with sp2 as well. It
has not gotten worse with sp3.

Does this behavior persist if you (1) disable the Norton firewall and then
(2) enable the Windows Firewall?
Yes. I disabled the firewall and searched google for microsoft.
Ctrl-clicked a couple of MS links (I figured Google and MS were safe sites
to play in w/ the firewall off) NO Change. What seems the worst
is new tabs open veeeeerrrry slooooowwwwly. And it is pointless to ctrl
click more than one at a time because it won't even notice the other
clicks till the first is connected and beginning to load. On my other
machines... click, click, click and BAM... you have 3 pages
starting to load.

Hyjackthis!, Ad-Aware, Spybot S&D, Avast and Norton IS2008 all say the
system is clean. That does NOT necessarily mean the machine is clean,
Robert. PS: HijackThis doesn't fix anything.
"I KNOW" on both counts. One can NEVER be 100% sure. I am only trying
to say, "it is as clean as I think it can be."


Thanks for the help Robear Dyer (PA Bear), please keep it up.



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Old 09-03-2008
Robert
 

Posts: n/a
Re: IE has slowed to pre-98SE levels in XP Pro. HELP!
Fiddler sees nothing but normal traffic to the web page sought and the
normal jpg's for ads and java scripts etc. I left it on w/ IE and when IE
was closed. No other traffic was noted.

As far as taskmanager goes... it only shows the same ol stuff. Tons of
Norton and Windows stuff [ccsvchst.exe, symlcsvc.exe, csrss.exe, smss.exe,
tcpsvcs.exe, spoolsv.exe, lsass.exe, services.exe, etc). Nothing unusual or
that I can not verify.


"rob^_^" <iecustomizer@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:358E1955-27AB-4328-A18F-49C6DCCF4660@microsoft.com...
> Hi Robert,
>
> Look in your Windows startup (msconfig.msc) to see if you have the
> GoogleToolbarNotifier.exe and disable it in the startup list.
>
> Please post back if this works.
>
> Otherwise you could use the Fiddler tool (www.fiddlertool.com) to look at
> you traffic and identify which processes are accessing the internet when
> you start IE. Also TaskManager sorted by CPU usage should give you some
> idea about which processes are also started along with IE when it is
> started.
>
> Regards.
>
> "Robert" <remdds@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
> news:lgjvk.20918$kh2.14561@bignews3.bellsouth.net. ..
>> I am using IE7.0.5730.13 in XP Pro sp3. It takes forever "connecting" to
>> my homepage (about:blank). New tabs open slower than a snails pace.
>> Things were faster in 98SE. Hyjackthis!, Ad-Aware, Spybot S&D, Avast and
>> Norton IS2008 all say the system is clean. I have reset all my advanced
>> internet options to their defaults. I have Uninstalled IE 7
>> (7.0.5730.13), rebooted to use IE6, and then reinstalled IE7. IE7 w/o
>> add-ons runs just as slow ("C:\Program Files\Internet
>> Explorer\iexplore.exe" -extoff) as it does with add-ons (which are few).
>> Granted whenever the system bogs down I expect IE to slow up. For
>> example, when the LAN slows... IE should too. But my other PC's on my
>> LAN all run IE faster than this one and this one has one of the fastest
>> processors with the most memory etc. etc. on the LAN. [Dual Intel
>> 3.4GHz, 333MHz 2Gb RAM, XP sp3, Dell XPS Gen1)
>> Any Ideas on where to start????????????????????? This has been going on
>> for several months with me trying my own fixes, all to no avail. I was
>> thinking some piece of software was calling home too much (like Norton,
>> Adobe, Java or Microsoft's Genuine Advantage) and sucking up bandwidth.
>> Process Monitor.exe shows that doesn't look like the case. [Although
>> removing Adobe's Updater5 really sped my video playback up to previous
>> levels.] Once the HD access slows after initial start up, it'll usually
>> work great for 30-60 min, then boom... the slugs slime into it.
>> ALL HELP IS GREATLY APPRECIATED!! What am I missing???
>>



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Old 09-03-2008
PA Bear [MS MVP]
 

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Re: IE has slowed to pre-98SE levels in XP Pro. HELP!
> IE7 was installed months b4 sp3. This problem was with sp2 as well.

I would not have installed WinXP SP3 or IE7 with the machine in that state,
Robert.

1. After making certain you have a copy of your Product Key, uninstall all
Norton software (including LiveUpdate and any Norton Add-ons) via Add/Remove
Programs.

2. Enable the Windows Firewall.

NB: You're "working without a net" now: Don't to ANYTHING else online (e.g.,
browsing; reading email; chatting) except #4 & #5 below until your
anti-virus application has been installed and fully updated!

3. Run this removal tool:
http://service1.symantec.com/SUPPORT...05033108162039

4. Reboot and /immediately/ install Avira AntiVir (free):
http://www.free-av.com/

5. Manually update your new anti-virus application then run a full system
scan, preferably in Safe Mode.

Do your problems persist now?
--
~PA Bear



Robert wrote:
> Was NIS running when you installed/uninstalled/reinstalled IE7? ...when
> you
>> installed WinXP SP3?

> NIS was installed but turned off on the reinstall of IE7 (though not
> during the initial install... which worked). NIS was off during sp3
> install
>
> Which was installed first, IE7 or WinXP SP3?
> IE7 was installed months b4 sp3. This problem was with sp2 as well.
> It
> has not gotten worse with sp3.
>
> Does this behavior persist if you (1) disable the Norton firewall and then
> (2) enable the Windows Firewall?
> Yes. I disabled the firewall and searched google for microsoft.
> Ctrl-clicked a couple of MS links (I figured Google and MS were safe sites
> to play in w/ the firewall off) NO Change. What seems the worst
> is new tabs open veeeeerrrry slooooowwwwly. And it is pointless to ctrl
> click more than one at a time because it won't even notice the
> other
> clicks till the first is connected and beginning to load. On my other
> machines... click, click, click and BAM... you have 3 pages
> starting to load.
>
> Hyjackthis!, Ad-Aware, Spybot S&D, Avast and Norton IS2008 all say the
> system is clean. That does NOT necessarily mean the machine is clean,
> Robert. PS: HijackThis doesn't fix anything.
> "I KNOW" on both counts. One can NEVER be 100% sure. I am only trying
> to say, "it is as clean as I think it can be."
>
>
> Thanks for the help Robear Dyer (PA Bear), please keep it up.


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