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Old 12-25-2007
CerfurMark
 

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Re: Task Manager Not Remembering Show processes from all users
Hi Rick,

I do appreciate your responses.

I always see that SearchIndexer starts as Normal priority. I always have
to go set it to Low Priority. And since it's a SYSTEM process, I always have
to go through this whole step of Show All Processes and the UAC. I've read
all the articles about how SearchIndexer is supposed to working quietly and
efficiently in the background and is not supposed to be noticable by the
user, but that certainly isn't the case for me. I will say that I have
Windows Defender and Avast Antivirus and Windows Firewall, so there shouldn't
be any malware. There is a third-party backup process I use called
Carbonite, which may possibly be causing SearchIndexer to get busy. It's
really hard for me to tell. How can another process "interfere" with
SearchIndexer? What requirements does SearchIndexer have so that it is not
interferred with?

I'm sure that all of this is complex, but it's extremely hard for me to
believe that Microsoft engineers could not figure out a way to store the
state of the task manager Show All Processes check box. It seems to remember
the column names fine. I am the only user and I am an administrator with
full priveleges, so how is it that my computer doesn't believe I am who I say
I am? It allowed me to log on as Administrator, so there must be some sort
of trust there. Why would an administrator not be able to see processes from
other users, especially system processes?

I certainly agree that Vista is vastly different than XP, but I do want to
complain to somebody that it is vastly worse. It's far slower and far more
combersome to use. I remember when I got XP and I thought, "Hey, this is
really an improvement. Speedy and hardly crashes.". That's not how I think
about Vista. I think it would be really great if they went back to the
drawing board and made Vista be like XP.

Mark

"Rick Rogers" wrote:

> Hi Mark,
>
> So disable indexing on that drive if you find it annoying. It's a low
> priority process though, and I suspect that's not the real issue. If it's
> not settling down after a few days, then I suspect something else is
> interfering with it.
>
> Vista is vastly different than XP, and if processes for all users were to be
> shown each time TM is opened it would also involve an additional UAC prompt
> for elevated privileges. In Vista, nothing runs in that mode without the
> user's explicit consent. For TM to open with that level by default means
> that the permissions used could also be exploited by malware.
>
> --
> Best of Luck,
>
> Rick Rogers, aka "Nutcase" - Microsoft MVP
> http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/
> Windows help - www.rickrogers.org
> My thoughts http://rick-mvp.blogspot.com
>
> "CerfurMark" <CerfurMark@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:5DE6F7F9-68A1-4802-A440-17E27229C30C@microsoft.com...
> > Hello,
> > In XP, I could check the "Show all processes" check box and it would
> > remember for next time. Why have they made this not work? I've had Vista
> > for almost a year and I still hate it. SearchIndexer.exe is always
> > running
> > and making all this noise on my hard disk and spiking my CPU up and down,
> > so
> > I'm always looking at TaskManger to set it to low priority or kill it.
> > Forcing me to have to press the Show all processes button every time I
> > start
> > Task Manager and then go through the UAC is just one more irritation on
> > top
> > of the SearchIndexer irritation.
> > Mark
> >
> > "Rick Rogers" wrote:
> >
> >> Hi,
> >>
> >> There is no setting to enable that, you will have to initiate it each
> >> time
> >> you load Task Manager.
> >>
> >> I woud concentrate my efforts on isolating whatever software is causing
> >> the
> >> slowdown issue. Full malware scans in safe mode with up to date antivirus
> >> and antispyware programs would be a good first step.
> >>
> >> --
> >> Best of Luck,
> >>
> >> Rick Rogers, aka "Nutcase" - Microsoft MVP
> >> http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/
> >> Windows help - www.rickrogers.org
> >> My thoughts http://rick-mvp.blogspot.com
> >>
> >> "CerfurMark" <CerfurMark@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> >> news:1FA8BD72-8572-4348-AA80-29A1B650CA00@microsoft.com...
> >> > On Windows Vista Home, I often am starting the task manager to see why
> >> > the
> >> > system is slow. But every single time I start Task Manager, the Show
> >> > processes from all users is a button instead of a checkbox and I have
> >> > to
> >> > press the button and go through UAC to be able to see all the
> >> > processes.
> >> > How
> >> > do I get Task Manager to remember that I ALWAYS want to see all the
> >> > processes
> >> > from all the users?
> >>
> >>

>
>

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