Hi DNK--
I certainly would agree with you it is anyone's job as a helper to aid the
person in doing what they want, so I offered my opinion and included in the
zip file what should precisely enable the OP to use his RB the way he
chooses. Perhaps I was severe in contexting a safety feature on its face as
training wheels, and I did not mean to be derogatory. For that I
apologize if my tone was perceived as deprecatory. What does work for me is
shift delete, and there are some more complicated CLSID tweaks that I've
seen in Honeycutt's registry book and others on the XP registry which shares
the Vista CLSID keys precisely that I did not post because I did not want to
put up some lengthy regedits that the OP would probably not want to use.
Your point of emptying the thing now and then is indeed a good one. I also
love DX Hog Hunt as a way of seeing what space is occupied in each and every
file and folder, but since the website has been taken Danish and I don't
speak it, I can't put up a link for it anymore and I looked a good while
several times in the past few months.
As to the keyboard trick, I believe people who use Windows Vista are smart
enough to make a decision as to when to use shift+delete and when not to.
It will require an extra few seconds of contemplation but I don't believe
it's a dangerous trick to teach anyone who is adult enough to use this
group. I don't believe small children are using it, and children who are
should be old I believe are exercise that discretion.
However, I am happy to put up some short easy regedits that will help with
the Recycle Bin and may help the OP and anyone else who needs them:
From Tom Temple
Submitted by Tom Temple
temple@earthlink.net
http://www.onecomputerguy.com/registry_tips.htm#recycle
Recycle Bin Edits
Submitted 5/2/96
Fooling with the recycle bin. Why not make the icon context menu act like
other icon context menu's.
Add rename to the menu:
[HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\CLSID\{645FF040-5081-101B-9F08-00AA002F954E}\ShellFolder]
"Attributes"=hex:50,01,00,20
Add delete to the menu:
[HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\CLSID\{645FF040-5081-101B-9F08-00AA002F954E}\ShellFolder]
"Attributes"=hex:60,01,00,20
Add rename and delete to the menu:
[HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\CLSID\{645FF040-5081-101B-9F08-00AA002F954E}\ShellFolder]
"Attributes"=hex:70,01,00,20
Restore the recycle bin to win 95 defaults including un-deleting the icon
after deletion:
.... Restore the icon.
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\Curr entVersion\explorer\Desktop\NameSpace\{645FF040-5081-101B-9F08-00AA002F954E}]
@="Recycle Bin"
.... reset win 95 defaults
..
[HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\CLSID\{645FF040-5081-101B-9F08-00AA002F954E}\ShellFolder]
"Attributes"=hex:40,01,00,20
Other edits to the recycle bin icon:
[HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\CLSID\{645FF040-5081-101B-9F08-00AA002F954E}\ShellFolder]
"Attributes"=hex:40,01,01,20 ... standard shortcut arrow
"Attributes"=hex:40,01,02,20 ... another shortcut arrow
"Attributes"=hex:40,01,04,20 ... and another shortcut arrow
"Attributes"=hex:40,01,08,20 ... make it look disabled (like it's been cut)
I added the above edits for fun. But it gets you thinking.
Note: Adding rename and delete to the context menu takes effect instantly.
To restore the icon after deletion requires screen refresh (F5).
Have fun.... Tom
Thanks,
CH
"Daze N. Knights" <Daze@Microdot.dot> wrote in message
news:uIj7CcdrHHA.1476@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
> Hmm. I am glad to have the Recycle Bin, myself, as a temporary storage for
> recently deleted files from which I can easily restore them if necessary.
> I have needed to restore recently deleted files many, many times over my
> years of using computers and can hardly see the sense in dispensing with
> this convenient safety feature in order to avoid the chore of regularly
> emptying the Recycle Bin. Regarding these people with GBs of stuff in
> their bin, it makes more sense to me to teach them to empty the thing now
> and then, instead of trying to teach them keyboard tricks that will
> immediately send their deleted files beyond their easy recovery.
>
> Chad Harris wrote:
>> Hello DD--
>>
>> In the first place it's a lot more sophistcated never to use the recycle
>> bin. I can't count the number of PCs I've worked on where one of the
>> complaints is my space vanished, only to find besides pics and music and
>> temp files that took GBs of real estate that the owners had packed a GB
>> or 2 in the recycle bin.
>>
>> SHIFT + DELETE= nothing piling up and gobbling your real estate in the
>> bin.
>>
>> Recycle bin is like the training wheels you used to learn to ride a bike
>> when you were 3 or 4 years old.
>>
>> You're grown up now. Why would you even need it?
>>
>> If you want the recycle bin on your desktop however, and want to pile
>> crap into it then it's a piece of cake to do it.
>>
>> I don't know why yours is behaving erratically with text and not the icon
>> on the desktop.
>>
>> Rt. click desktop>personalize>change desktop icons (hyperlink on
>> left)>ck. mark in recycle bin.
>>
>> Considering your past history with an erratic recycle bin I offer this to
>> you--this does what you want.
>>
>> "Enhanced Recycle Bin Menu"
>>
>> ERBM+.reg replaces the Delete command from the Recycle Bin with a Clear
>> Temp command.
>> This prevents users from accidentally deleting the Recycle Bin Icon from
>> the Desktop.
>> It also adds a Disk Cleanup command which performs an Extended Disc
>> Cleanup on all disks.
>> The Clear Temp command clears both Temp dirs:
>> %UserProfile%\AppData\Local\Temp and %SystemRoot%\Temp.
>>
>> Install: merge ERBM+.reg
>> Uninstall: merge ERBM-.reg
>>
>>
>> http://herby.virtualplastic.net/files/ERBM.zip
>>
>> Enjoy.
>>
>> CH
>>
>> Believe me, Vista is not like Hitler. Vista has not taken your children
>> from you, put you on a train and beat you , stacked you up literally with
>> hundreds of other people and no food and no toilet, in incredible heat
>> and cold and then beat you into a gas chamber or an incinerator. That my
>> friend, is what Hitler did and let me make it damn clear, President
>> Roosevelt knew it was happening for years before he lifted a finger to
>> do anything about it and then only because his literal ass was threatened
>> and his country was bombed, and it was long after members of his cabinet
>> pleaded with him to stop the extermination of people and after 6 million
>> had been exterminated after being tortured, having all their possessions
>> and families ripped from them. Many of the possessions haven't been
>> restored by different governments today and it has taken long, expensive
>> litigation to get some of it back.
>>
>> You probably live in an indifferent country called the US that is getting
>> just the democracy it deserves while thousands of your country men have
>> died for nothing, hundreds of thousands of Iraquis have, 2 million Iraqui
>> women have been forced into prostitution in Syria, mere hundreds have
>> been allowed into the US after their country has been turned into an
>> inferno, and one of the lying architects of that will be denied an appeal
>> bond in about 24 hours and sent on the road to prison named Libby. 12 of
>> the most distinguished attorneys in the nation have made one of the most
>> stupid arguments imaginable in their motion for an appeal bond that will
>> be denied.
>>
>> Many of the supporters of the war who want to be President like Guilliani
>> got multiple deferments because they were afraid to go to war. Cheney
>> got 6 of them. Bush ran away and hid and his daddy got him into a
>> national guard training for a plane that would never go to Nam. When he
>> was asked to report for a physical for a plane that was going, he hid for
>> months and did not report to said physical exam. Ashcroft got multiple
>> deferments and the architect for ignoring all laws, Gonzales did as well.
>>
>> Fitzgerald's brief writer demolished all 12 of them in her reply brief
>> filed yesterday.
>>
>> http://justoneminute.typepad.com/mai..._Resp_Bail.pdf
>>
>> If you're Libby right now, the angst of sure prison has overtaken all
>> your thoughts, and that's a very good thing. He could have revealed that
>> Bush and Cheney were behind his lying and he has chosen to say nothing.
>> He'll have a couple years of actual time to think about it.
>>
>> "Disco Dillusion" <DiscoDillusion@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in
>> message news:2C39F462-E3EE-42F4-8279-78F6B7DEF4C9@microsoft.com...
>>> ok, first off...Vista....AAAAAHH!!!!! second off, ive read alot of the
>>> posts
>>> already on this subject...and! i dont think most people are "accidently"
>>> deleting there recycle bin....i know how to get it back, so thats not
>>> the
>>> question. Ive used every version of Windows since 95, and i have NEVER
>>> deleted it by accident, so i know im not doing it now. Further more! im
>>> having two issues with Recycle Bin, first one is it auto deleting itself
>>> from
>>> my desktop leaving an empty spot in my icons. Second one is the icon
>>> itself
>>> is gone, but not the text "Recycle Bin" below it....thats two separate
>>> issues
>>> with one program, and just one of the many many MANY problems ive had
>>> with
>>> Vista.
>>> --
>>> ....Vista, like Hitler, except more evil....
>>