I'm sorry Steve, it seems that my wording might have been
misunderstable.

For sure what happens on my side may not be generalized.
And I fully agree that we would need more reports from other folks. Too
sad that so far no one reported back on your suggestion of moving the
TIF :-( :-(

Rainald

Steve Cochran schrieb:

> Its clear to me that that is what I did. You cannot generalize the
> issue based upon your experience alone and draw unwarranted
> conclusions. It is unclear that the problem has to do with TIF
> corruption, which is why I'm trying to get users to try moving the
> TIF and see if the IE8 problems go away. So far, no one else has
> claimed they did. So conclusions can only be drawn after time to see
> what fixes the issue.
>
> steve
>
> "Rainald Taesler" <taesler@gmx.de> wrote in message
> news:Oi1be2hwJHA.248@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>> Hi Steve,
>> to me it's still not clear if you really "opened" the JPGs by
>> clicking on the attachment icon (paper clip).
>> The images show fine in/below a message in the preview and still they
>> may crash.
>> As said before: It may take a while until the problem appears and
>> JPGs may be opened fine but crash later. And once they crashed,
>> other file types may crash too.
>>
>> The whole thing indeed is a TIF corruption problem but not only that.
>> There's other factors too - mainly the path specified for running
>> WinMail.
>> Changing the path in the StartMenu's shortcut helps (reported by
>> others too).
>> And some applications (contrary to the simple error message fro JPGs)
>> clearly show that the file "C:\Windows\System32\MyFile.ppt" could
>> not be opened.
>>
>> And OE-Quotefix seriously affects the situation. Starting WinMail
>> with OELaunch is a straight route into the problem.
>> Calling WinMail separately first and then OE Quotefix later mostly is
>> OK.
>>
>> Moving the TIF (as you suggested earlier in this thread) has the same
>> effect as deleting thee "Content.OE5" directories and re-booting or
>> creating a new user account and working from there.
>> Things are fine for a while. Using OELaunch again will re-create the
>> problem.
>>
>> The whole thing is a mystery.
>> I'll make a fresh install on my test-machine and try to put together
>> a comprehensive report.
>>
>> Rainald
>>
>> Steve Cochran wrote:
>>> Well, the jpg images displayed below the messages, so I assumed they
>>> were being opening okay, and I was able to open them from the
>>> message.
>>>
>>> We need more data to determine if it is a TIF corruption issue, so
>>> moving the TIF is an option to test that.
>>>
>>> steve
>>>
>>> "Rainald Taesler" <taesler@gmx.de> wrote in message
>>> news:O3dBbafvJHA.4324@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>>>> Thanks for your efforts, Steve.
>>>>
>>>> You say that after installing IE8 you could *SAVE* the attachments.
>>>> *Saving* is no problem. *Opening* the JPGs is the problem.
>>>>
>>>> Yes, the problem is placing the temporary files in a location where
>>>> they can be opened.
>>>>
>>>> As said before: Deleting the "Content.IE5" directories (where
>>>> WinMail places the temporary files) is a remedy for a certain
>>>> while.
>>>> But the problem comes back.
>>>>
>>>> I'll try out your suggestion.
>>>> But I think that I'll better make a fresh install and/or retire the
>>>> system partition from an older image as on testing things
>>>> meanwhile I have deleted the "Content.IE5" directories several
>>>> times."
>>>>
>>>> I'll report, possibly after the weekend.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks again
>>>> Rainald
>>>>
>>>> Steve Cochran wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Okay, I did a clean install of Vista with SP1 and then updated it
>>>>> completely via WinUpdate. Then I checked WinMail and it could
>>>>> open and save attachments (jpg and pdf (well, it couldn't open pdf
>>>>> because Acrobat reader wasn't installed, but it could save it).
>>>>> Then I installed IE8 and used it a bit and then could still save
>>>>> attachments in WinMail with no problems.
>>>>>
>>>>> So I'd guess that the TIF got corrupted. The way we used to fix
>>>>> it was to move it, so you can try that. In IE go to Tools |
>>>>> Options | settings | Move folder and then change the TIF location
>>>>> to somewhere within the user space such as a new directory under
>>>>> Documents. Then reboot and see if the problems are rectified. I
>>>>> think that used to fix similar problems with OE5 or 4.
>>>>>
>>>>> steve
>>>>>
>>>>> "Rainald Taesler" <taesler@gmx.de> wrote in message
>>>>> news:%23Wt9yCRvJHA.1300@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>>>>>> Steve Cochran schrieb:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> My guess is that the permissions for the TIF changed with IE8
>>>>>>>>> and excluded OE. You might try taking ownership of the
>>>>>>>>> Content.IE5 directory and then see if that makes any
>>>>>>>>> difference if you still have a problem with the other
>>>>>>>>> machines.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Thanks for yoir suggestion, Steve.
>>>>>>>> The properties dialog for the "Content.UE5" directory - which
>>>>>>>> has the attributes "system" and "hidden" - does not show the
>>>>>>>> secirity and ownership dialogs, I can check thins there.
>>>>>>>> But as I have the ownership for the directory above
>>>>>>>> (%localappdata%\microsoft\windows\temporary internet files") O
>>>>>>>> shoild be the owner there too.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Might it have to do with the "integritylevel"?
>>>>>>>> Should I play with ICACLS?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I don't know. When I get a chance I'll install the thing and
>>>>>>> see what I can break.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Would be really nice!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> TIA
>>>>>> Rainald